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 Post subject: degreaser? moly?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:46 pm 
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I'm preparing to open up a rifle or two to clean and relube. I'm going to build a spring compressor.
What works well to degrease the internals of a springer (something that perhaps won't harm seals)? Varsol? Paint thinner? Simple Green? Spray Nine? How does acetone work?
As for lubrication, I understand that moly is required. Am I right in assuming that the moly grease available at Canadian Tire is not the best moly for the job? (http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motom ... 40nUctOXIU) and that Molyslip AS/65 Assembly Compound is what is best (http://www.molyslip.com/products/anti-s ... uff-paste/)? Is the Moly Paste from SSSO the right stuff? (http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdo ... -2-oz.html)


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 Post subject: Re: degreaser? moly?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:03 am 
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For de-greasing; higher the alchol % lesser the residue left behind. I have heard of people using soapy water. (I wouldn't, unless on delicate washers/seals, even then; rinse it at least twice as long, lye & the likes are hardly friendly on rubber, poly)
The SSSO stuff for Moly IS the stuff :) very good price on it too. I'll be ordering some myself soon.

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Thanks. My old Webley Vulcan is losing velocity with each shot, so I'm thinking I may have to take a look at it inside. I want to make sure I have everything on hand, however, before doing anything.


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 Post subject: Re: degreaser? moly?
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Honda dealership also sells a moly lube that is very good

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:27 am 
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The Honda moly is $25 for a 2oz tube IIRC. But I know this for sure that it is 60% moly.
The Airgunsource stuff is 70% (at least)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:16 am 
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De-natured alcohol is the best way to get the old lube out. It cleans it quickly and evaporates right away .I put it on a paper towel and a dowel and twist it down the cylinder. . As far as moly, I like Jim Macari's best.

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 Post subject: Re: degreaser? moly?
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I have some good info including pix n stuff that will help your project, including info on lube and why I don't use moly paste. If you want it write me at chevota at hotmail and I'll send it to you. Just remind me of who you are and what gun it is.


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Try slapshot!!!!! It comes out under pressure and literally blows all the grime and junk out. No need to wipe. And it evaporates shortly after


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I was looking for the same info myself
Im ordering a new spring (probably from SSSO as thats where my gun is from) for my HW97 and wondered about what lubes to use
It snice if they sell everything I need in one stop :)

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Penguy...Why build a spring compressor? Need to do something for the summer or have wood and spare clamps?
Just go to Cdn Tire/Homedepot and get a Pipe clamp, most time on sale and a length of pipe for your application..
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/irwin-p ... -ft/904181
..http://www.homedepot.ca/product/black-s ... nch/988556

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 Post subject: Re: degreaser? moly?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:19 am 
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2240mod wrote:
Penguy...Why build a spring compressor? Need to do something for the summer or have wood and spare clamps?
Just go to Cdn Tire/Homedepot and get a Pipe clamp, most time on sale and a length of pipe for your application..
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/irwin-p ... -ft/904181
..http://www.homedepot.ca/product/black-s ... nch/988556


I did this myself too
The clamp was on sale for less than $10 and I got the pipe from work, it works great
Mines 5 ft long and can adjust anywhere in between

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 Post subject: Re: degreaser? moly?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:29 am 
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I bought a 40" bar clamp from PA for about $20 on sale. It looks like this, but 40" long:
http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/Bar- ... /8041889.p
A bar clamp like this should be versatile as it can handle longer pieces such as underlever actions as well as break barrel actions with the barrel removed. I'm thinking that since the bar is flat I can drill a couple of holes in it and screw it in place for solid security next to the bed for the compression tube.


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 Post subject: Re: degreaser? moly?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:41 am 
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Penage Guy wrote:
I bought a 40" bar clamp from PA for about $20 on sale. It looks like this, but 40" long:
http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/Bar- ... /8041889.p
A bar clamp like this should be versatile as it can handle longer pieces such as underlever actions as well as break barrel actions with the barrel removed. I'm thinking that since the bar is flat I can drill a couple of holes in it and screw it in place for solid security next to the bed for the compression tube.

I would not recommend that type of bar clamp. You will find the swivel end difficult to center and stay put. The cast iron pipe clamp with the little feet is safer.

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 Post subject: Re: degreaser? moly?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:12 am 
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Please do not use that Penguy, there is a topic of a member using one of those and had a "Slip", nearly lost a thumb nail.
Spend a couple of the "Pretty Cdn Dollars" and get the CDNTire or HomeDepot Clamp.
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 Post subject: Re: degreaser? moly?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:04 pm 
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I appreciate the concern, especially when safety is an issue. I can say that I just returned from my father's shop, where I used the clamp to decompress the spring in my HW77k. I used C clamps to secure the bar clamp in question so that it could not move. I secured the action so that it, too, could not move. Everything worked very well.


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