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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:17 pm 
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Lol mexican surgeon ;)

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:11 pm 
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This lady sure doesn't think it's funny: http://globalnews.ca/news/1569605/b-c-w ... in-mexico/

And before someone here accuses me of political correctlessness, try googling first:

Google results:
why canadians should not go to mexico for surgery - About 41,100,000 results
mexico surgery disasters - About 236,000 results
mexico surgeons luring foreigners - About 6,840,000 results

and incredibly:

why you should not be so stupid to go to mexico for surgery - About 5,180,000 results

Rest my case.


Edit: Also googled: "why you should not let hacked2pieces work on your guns"
did not yield any results. Guess it's safe for you to send him your guns to be gutted. I said YOU (not ME)

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:36 pm 
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I check the flier religiously when it comes out, so I went out today just to have a look at the Ruger.
then I noticed they had a Beeman P17, which wasn't there last week. Tag price was $59.95, I've had that on my wish list and thought that I would have to order online.
Now I don't have to pay shipping, so the price seemed OK. I get to the counter, and the kid says "that will be $29.95" considering I also bought a $4 switch, I said that can't be right.
Nope, it's on sale right now, so Happy, Happy, Happy, I damn near flew out of the store before they changed their mind.
This was in Prince George, so check your local PA if you're in the market for a P17. :D

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:52 pm 
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Oh and by the way, Joolz, that did have the fibre optic sights, unlike the one from Airgun Source.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:12 pm 
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Doh!
Why do I keep missing out on the great sales? The P17 I got from the other PA (pyramyd air) cost me a lot more than this when you factor in all the additional crap like shipping, duties, fedex theft fees, dollar convertion...

Then again our local PA did not have any P17. Even their website doesn't list them.
Who knows, maybe on Tuesday there will be some. If so I'd just grab one, whether it has fibre optics or not. For this price why not. I can still return the one I got from Pyramyd along with the Daisy 953 as I'm still within 30 days (the one Murray got me from TSC should be here Monday)

Who knew buying within Canada can end up saving you so much money.
Btw you haven't yet updated your sig.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:34 pm 
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Yea, I hope this wasn't a fluke or a regional thing. I don't know if I got the last one or not, but a buddy of mine is interested now. Going back tomorrow with him.
Bought a Chrony the other day as well, fired a few shots across it just to see how close to the claimed 410 fps it gets.
I didn't keep records but I saw a low of 379 and a high of 391 with RWS hobby 7.0 gr. not bad.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:51 pm 
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Ledyak wrote:
Oh and by the way, Joolz, that did have the fibre optic sights, unlike the one from Airgun Source.

I just received one from AirGunSource and it came with fibre optic sights. When I ordered it I checked first and they said it did.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:02 am 
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lleader wrote:
Ledyak wrote:
Oh and by the way, Joolz, that did have the fibre optic sights, unlike the one from Airgun Source.

I just received one from AirGunSource and it came with fibre optic sights. When I ordered it I checked first and they said it did.




Must have been an old picture, and they don't really say in the description.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:26 pm 
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I don't mean to poop on your parade, but here goes. Firstly, do you want a $69 rifle? I have been down this road (and I'm sure I don't speak for myself here). Crosman, IB....in hindsight, knowing what I know now, I really wish I had saved all that money and gone for the gold right off the start.....or at least the silver. For all the money I sank into 2240 mods (money pit elite), cheap springers, numerous pistols and the like, I could have had a HW97KT by now....or something one could be proud to own and performs like a gem.
I don't mean to go all parental here and I know money is always the issue, but seriously, take it up a notch and put good money towards good, you won't regret it, especially if you see yourself sticking with it.

(Ok, I'll shut up now)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:24 pm 
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Understood and fully agreed. I'm not the type to pin my hopes on cheap prods. Why do you think I try to avoid crap made in China like the plague.
This isn't a rifle I'd buy online or someplace that didn't have a great return policy. I figure I have nothing to lose, will get one, try it out and see how it works. If it's a lemon or if for whatever reason wife doesn't care for it, back it goes. On the other hand if it works well then she'd have something to replace the superb 953 that she found to be too heavy.

It's hit and miss and since I'm going there anyway for the Daisy 201 I figured what the heck.
On that note, are there any decent small, lightweight springers with decent sights, kinda similar to this Ruger with a low price tag? The Baikal 60/61 comes to mind, but are there others?

The only other cheap light rifle we took a chance on is the Crosman 1077 co2 powered, a rifle that I wouldn't ordinarily bother with. But guess what, I got it used for dirt cheap and it has fitted the wife really well. The thing is about as light as the Crosman m4-177 and has worked flawlessly after several hundred rounds. She can't put that thing down, which is why I ordered a sleeve of pellets. She burns through those 12 shot clips faster than I reload them.

Thing about the cheapo crappo is that sometimes you luck out. Should this not be the case with the Explorer, back to PA it goes. Gives me an excuse to go back there and look at other bargains. But thanks for the heads up, I appreciate the feedback. It's like I said, I know what to expect and that ain't much :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:31 am 
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Handyguy wrote:
do you want a $69 rifle?

Sure do! But not this one. My first PAL-rated rifle was a Crosman 2100 from Amazon USA, around March this year. Truthfully I did not really warm up to it until this month, but oh boy I love it now. Single-hole groups at 7m, puts dents in the heads of my Princess Auto ducks with 10 pumps, so 3 pumps are enough to knock them down. That gun only cost me around $70 after the exchange rate and all that.

Anyway, back on topic. I can't speak from personal experience but everything I read recommends staying away from the Daisy 201. Even for $15 I wouldn't buy one. I should add I have a P17 which by all accounts is a much better performing SSP so I would rather spend my trigger time with that.

I was at Princess Auto yesterday, the gun selection did not seem much different from the usual display - the Ruger was there but I wasn't too interested. Crosman pellets were extremely low (2 Destroyers and 1 Pointed), I bought them all for my 2100 just in case I ever need to eat a squirrel or something.

One nice thing I saw but did not buy, is that starting today, the large 22-inch Pelican-like case should be on sale. Will be a really nice case for lining up your pistols. SKU 8486037


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:43 pm 
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Gotz me them gunz.
1 is a keeper the other is being returned a second time.

Daisy 201: as claimed above, this thing isn't worth the super low price. That's money best spent on ammo. It'd be an embarrassment to have this as part of anyone's collection. First one I got shot to the right/low some 15cm at a distance of 4m. That's when it even shot, half the time the pellets just dropped to the floor. Exchanged it and the replacement is only slightly more accurate, basically from 4m it's about 5cm to the right and low. Back down to 6m and it hardly dings the paper target. This is the reason why I don't want to waste time with a pistol that lacks sight adjustments. The only thing I like about this gun is the cocking process, it feels like the real deal. Compared to the P17 this is a breeze to cock/load pellets. But unlike the Beeman this isn't a gun worthy of merit or mention.

Ruger Explorer: wow, talk about a nice surprise. Thing surpassed my already low expectations by a kilometre. Super easy to cock. Neat and not annoying auto safety. Gun is light, fits the wife very nicely and she complimented how nice it looks (guess much like me she isn't into wood - go ahead, insert joke here). Rear sight adjusts by clicks and once I zeroed it in, it hits the bulls eye consistently. And yes, they are fibre optics. It also has a rail for a red dot or scope. Although we'll likely leave it with open sights as a true practice gun.
This is supposed to be a factory reconditioned unit but doesn't show it. Not a mark and box comes with all the manuals and other NRA garbage, packed nicer than the Daisy 953.

We'll put it to good use for the next couple of months. Should it break down on us back to Princess it goes. So nothing to lose.

PS: Calgary south store doesn't have the Luger, claim it hasn't arrived yet. I happened to be driving not far from the north location and they had 9 in stock. Sounds like the store doesn't have their crap together. So if you live in the south call first. Both stores have the 201 for those eager to increase their collection the cheapest possible way.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:17 pm 
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Handyguy wrote:
I don't mean to poop on your parade, but here goes. Firstly, do you want a $69 rifle? I have been down this road (and I'm sure I don't speak for myself here). Crosman, IB....in hindsight, knowing what I know now, I really wish I had saved all that money and gone for the gold right off the start.....or at least the silver. For all the money I sank into 2240 mods (money pit elite), cheap springers, numerous pistols and the like, I could have had a HW97KT by now....or something one could be proud to own and performs like a gem.
I don't mean to go all parental here and I know money is always the issue, but seriously, take it up a notch and put good money towards good, you won't regret it, especially if you see yourself sticking with it.

(Ok, I'll shut up now)


Ive learned a lot over my years, I did like you say....I went straight for the HW97KT, best money I ever spent!!!
It doesn't miss, but I do sometimes :)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:51 pm 
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Heh, I had completely forgotten I had also bought this BB gun this morning when I got the others. Man that thing is a blast and only $15. I have to thank my two boys being with me as I couldn't leave the store without getting them a gun. So glad I did.
It shoots incredibly well and far. And pretty accurate for a BB. The best part is that I loaded it with white BBs and you can see them flying and hitting the target, like a tracer fire. I was never much into BBs but this may just change that. Now I may have to exchange that useless Daisy 201 for another of these as I don't want to fight with a 5 year old to see who gets to shoot that super fun gun. Oh and the pumping is so easy, he has no problems doing it. Which has me greatly concerned now. Oh well, if he takes one the neighbourhood's kid's eye out they grow right back, right?

PS: doesn't come with the red dot, I put it on the weaver/picatinny rail since it has a rail and no sights.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:05 pm 
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bought Daisy 201 for $14 yesterday
returned for refund today,
loved return policy at PA and black female cashier
great experience with a gun, shot 1 shot only, did not want any more, recommend to everyone for one day/shot only
please share experience

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