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 Post subject: oil burner
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:22 pm 

Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:30 pm
Posts: 44
Location: London ont
I understand a springer needs some oil in front of the piston. A tiny bit is burnt on each shot.My question is what kind of oil is best and how much and how often do I apply it? I know this only applies to higher power rifles. Thanks for replies

 Post subject: Re: oil burner
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:06 am 
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Location: Alberta Canada
If you really must lubricate the seal, sylicone chamer oil.
Personal opinion here, ITS OVER RATED to lubricate the cylinder chamber. Majority of the time damage is already done to the seal upon installation.

May the cry of the pack be with you upon your hunt


 Post subject: Re: oil burner
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:52 am 

Joined: Mon May 26, 2014 1:08 am
Posts: 480
Location: Thunder Bay
There is a recent post here regarding Cardew's book available on line. If you read the section on springers, he does an excellent job of explaining the "combustion" phase of a high velocity springer. Don't be surprised if you have more questions after reading it!

12 springers and a couple of pumpers.
2 lathes and lots of scrap metal.

I'm not multitasking. I'm doing something else until I remember what I was doing.

 Post subject: Re: oil burner
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:17 pm 

Joined: Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:16 pm
Posts: 1271
Location: United States
The oil will burn and make extra power for a very short time, unlike the Cardew belief that a drop of oil can somehow magically power a gun for a thousand shots. I knew it was bs so I tested a gun bone dry of oil, dry lube only and it made full power. Problem is a dry gun rusts. Depending on the seal and chamber wall condition the oil will help it seal just like in a 2-stroke engine. Then there's the seal itself that w/o lube would no doubt get friction burns and leak. They don't really need much oil, but I oil more often just to be sure it has enough and everything is protected. Silicone is ok for the seal itself, but not the rest of the gun, so I don't use it and can't say I anyone should. I use synthetic motor oil, but the oil vs silicone is a hot topic. If you find silicone in a factory gun let me know. I never have and that should say something. As Whitewolf mentioned the seals are usually damaged and leak already, so if you use silicone it sprays aft all over the metal parts.

 Post subject: Re: oil burner
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:28 pm 

Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:04 am
Posts: 61
Location: Burlington
If you know the make and model of your rifle , I'd do an Internet search for the owners manual If I no longer had it.

I trust that the engineers who designed the thing- had in mind - the tolerances and and lubricity required to make the thing operate at peak efficiently.

The owners manual will list the correct lube and locations to hit with it-

if you use and maintain the thing as it was designed - it should preform as expected.

if you start throwing all kinds of wild cards in there- ddon'tknow what could happen.

Who knows your pro oil might be better- but what happens as that oil drys out and the shots become less consistent- there goes your precision..right?

With that said- I've gold an old pump daisy that iI've poured everything into over the years.. from motor oil to 3&1 to WD and it still holds pressure.

Crossman sells silicone chamber lube - marked specifically for the springer chamber though- Isuspect that this is what the owners manual will indicate.

So in the end do what helps you sleep at night - because your not going to notice a difference.

Personally. I sleep better knowing I got what the engineers say in there.

I don't belive it's just a gimmic to sell overpriced shock oil:p

One screw for the grip?

pardon my ignorance ... and my auto correct

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