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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:36 pm 
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Hi , I juste recieve a hatsan at44-10 tactical long version in .177 cal . I m looking to reduce the sound of this rifle in a legal way.
First , these pellets go over the sound speed (1170fps) , by reducing the speed of this pellets under the sound speed , will the sound be like a dry fire?

Does those air stripper will help a bit for the loud sound?

what are the best way to reduce the speed of the pellets? Air regulator?

What should be the best speed (fps) for small game hunthing and target shooting?

Thank you very much

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:46 pm 
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Adding anything to the Hatsan that works to reduce the sound output is very illegal.

Probably dialing down the fps would be the only legal way to reduce the output.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:59 pm 
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Reduce the rifles output.
For .177 heavy weight pellets speed 780 to 820fps. Lighter weights 680 to 720fps. Youll increase your shot count and the sound would be tamed right down. Just find whats accurate. For hunting its not so much as the fpe overkill as it is for shot placement being priority.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:43 am 
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Deffinetly lower the FPS. Anything over 900 fps is wasted air. The hammer spring on the AT44 is easily adjusted with a long allen wrench. Look it up on Utube if you don't know how.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:52 am 
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If you reduce the muzzle velocity (and air "output") the volume of the sound will go down. That's the only legal way to get the "loudness" to diminish. Whatever pellets you are shooting, you don't want them to be close to the transonic level or the pellets will become unstable in flight. What this means in real terms is that you don't want your pellets, whatever their weight, to go faster than 950 fps at the most. Lighter pellets will go faster than heavier pellets. If you adjust your gun (others will be able to help you with that if you need instructions) so that, for example, a .177 8.44 grain JSB pellet will go around 900 fps, that will give you about 15 foot pounds of energy. At that level of energy a heavy .177 10.3 grain pellet would have a muzzle velocity of around 800 - 810 fps. That energy level will be sufficient for small game (airgunners in the U.K. are limited to 12 fpe and do quite well taking rabbits and squirrels -- and 12fpe means an 8.4 grain pellet going about 800 fps), but as has been pointed out in a previous post the key is shot placement.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:39 pm 
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Ok what is about the barrel of the hatsan qe? Is it legal in Canada ?

I will try to lower the velocity to what you sugest.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:05 am 
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Try rephrasing the question; this did not translate well into English.


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If you bought it from a dealer in Canada,,then it is legal in Canada

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:11 am 
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daoust wrote:
Ok what is about the barrel of the hatsan qe? Is it legal in Canada ?

Edmonton<500 wrote:
Try rephrasing the question; this did not translate well into English.

The question refers to the AT44-10 Quiet Energy model which has a fully shrouded barrel (i.e. a built in silencer).
joe hickey wrote:
If you bought it from a dealer in Canada,,then it is legal in Canada

These are not and will not be sold in Canada (unless the laws change).


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what these guys said and ear protection.... if you are shooting it in a proper location then the only ears you should have to be worrying about are yours.......

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At the risk of violating the forum rules would it be legal to shoot such loud airgun though a padded cardboard box? To reduce the report of the shot.
I understand the Canadian laws about silencers however if it isn't attached to the muzzle then isn't it legal?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:53 am 
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I believe when this has been discussed before the definition "a device or contrivance designed or intended to muffle or stop the sound or report of a firearm, " does not specify that it is attached. So a device or contrivance such as a padded box or tube you shoot through I would think could get you in serious trouble. This is different of course to sound proof engineering, materials and construction of a facility to reduce the report such as a range.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:09 am 
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Legal or not. The arresting officer would look pretty stupid when reading the charges. Your Honor. The accused was found shooting a pellet gun inside a padded cardboard box. :oops:
I believe you would have to use your own discretion depending where you shoot.If you're in the garage or basement and don't want to disturb other,s, what,s the harm. yes it,s a stupid law, but then again there are load,s of stupid laws, world wide.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:00 am 
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I do have one air rifle that is noticeably louder when I shoot lightweight alloy pellets. I don't like to attract any undue attention so I don't shoot them.
Maybe I'll try the padded cardboard box idea.
It's a good enough idea for the army.


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Now that is some contrivance!!!

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