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 Post subject: 1322 easy way mods.?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:51 pm 
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Hi all,

First time posting here, I'm in the process of getting a 1322 Crosman. One mod. that I saw among the endless mods., that you can apply on this platform, was that just with replacing the standard Hammer spring on the 1322, with a more stronger one, you can significantly increase the FPS.?I would like to know what is your take on this topic,what's the level of difficult on this DIY ? any suggestions?, and if any of you has a link of any reputable website of where to get these mods.(Canada)

Thanks in advance for your time.
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 Post subject: Re: 1322 easy way mods.?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:45 pm 
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. . . was that just with replacing the standard Hammer spring on the 1322, with a more stronger one, you can significantly increase the FPS.?I would like to know what is your take on this topic. . . .

If it is your intention to pump the gun 50 strokes per shot, maybe, a stiffer hammer spring might yield a few more fps. Not "significantly"; if this were the only modification to an otherwise stock gun.

Get a chrony, then let the modding begin. . . . What's your desired fps specification?

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 Post subject: Re: 1322 easy way mods.?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:55 pm 
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. . . was that just with replacing the standard Hammer spring on the 1322, with a more stronger one, you can significantly increase the FPS.?I would like to know what is your take on this topic. . . .

If it is your intention to pump the gun 50 strokes per shot, maybe, a stiffer hammer spring might yield a few more fps. Not "significantly"; if this were the only modification to an otherwise stock gun.

Get a chrony, then let the modding begin. . . . What's your desired fps specification?


there is a bunch of "free'ish" easy mods for this platform but legality plays a key role, chrony it and decide what you want and need from this gun but nothing wrong with adding a spacer under the pumpcup and matching the valve nose cone with the pumpcup (sanding to flush fit) as a start, adds a bit of fps or plugging the bleed hole for the 1322's but again mind your fps there is a fine line between a potent pumper pistol and a "Restricted Firearm"

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 Post subject: Re: 1322 easy way mods.?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:40 pm 
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Well,

Thanks for getting back to me first guys, here is the thing I'm just may a little concern that I will not getting the advertised FPS, so I was thinking what is the easy/cheap way to increase the FPS., but I definitely I don't want to go the 500 FPS. limit! Like for instance a longer 14" barrel or the mod. hammer spring?..

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 Post subject: Re: 1322 easy way mods.?
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no gun lives up to the claimed fps on the box lol a barrel is a good start but are you looking to keep the 1322 a pistol or make it a carbine? a longer barrel on a already long pistol can make it a bit difficult to aim/hold not to mention you may have to swap out the barrelband to a 2289 barrelband in which you will lose your front sight, you could always drill out the factory band to 7/16's to match the barrel o.d but again these guns like the 2240's are pretty much infinite as to what you want to do 8)

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 Post subject: Re: 1322 easy way mods.?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:09 pm 
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. . . . Like for instance a longer 14" barrel . . .

Might make more sense to source a 2289. 14" barrel is ~20ish% faster than the 10". Still not at "advertised" speed. But a real nice increase in sight radius, which can additionally(but not always) lend to increased accuracy. . . . Great Mod. . .

The Stock hammer spring doesn't need a stiffer replacement, until your pump efficiency is increased to the point where you're retaining air after a shot.

Otherwise, the primary thing that a stiffer hammer spring accomplishes, is stiffened(harder) trigger pull. . . . Questionable Mod. . . .

Read up on tuning the 13/22xx trigger group. It'll end up being an inexpensive mod, that rewards you every time you use the gun. . . Best Mod for this family of guns!
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. . . a little concern that I will not getting the advertised FPS . . . ..

Correct. You wont.
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. . .but I definitely I don't want to go the 500 FPS. limit!. . .

No way to assess this, without access to the tools that prove performance. Post your province, maybe someone near you has a chrony you could use to prove your gun over.

You're gonna have a great time with this. . . .

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 Post subject: Re: 1322 easy way mods.?
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Post your province, maybe someone near you has a chrony you could use to prove your gun over.

You're gonna have a great time with this. . . .


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 Post subject: Re: 1322 easy way mods.?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:34 pm 
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Well, my point was to start with the easiest mod. possible, that's why I was here to ask any input from those already enjoy from this platform..and yes I would prefer to keep it as pistol,hence I forgot that the 1322 has a 10" barrel, longer, if I'm not mistaken,that the one on the 2240 :) ....

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 Post subject: Re: 1322 easy way mods.?
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The easiest mod is polishing up the trigger parts and putting in a lighter trigger spring. this will make the gun much nicer to shoot. Then you can up the FPS.


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Plasticman wrote:
The easiest mod is polishing up the trigger parts and putting in a lighter trigger spring. this will make the gun much nicer to shoot. Then you can up the FPS.


A softer sear spring too.

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 Post subject: Re: 1322 easy way mods.?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:04 pm 
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Its nice to have a great trigger (i try to perfect that but wont relinquish all my secrets just ask my buyers how well my tuned factory triggers are... "boringly accurate") and a good trigger makes a great gun! But if you want sub 500fps (per law) in a .22cal pumper search rsterne's post on the 2289 he knows his shi...tuff and the amount of mods it takes to bring a .22cal pumper up to the limit is quite a bit... Get a steel breech and some optics, you got a great gun why fart with it?

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 Post subject: Re: 1322 easy way mods.?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:45 am 
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Thanks guys,

I placed the order and My 1322 is on its way here :D so might as well I'll wait to get my hands on it and I'll take it from there :D

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 Post subject: Re: 1322 easy way mods.?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:44 pm 
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Ok,

May be I'll start with compressing a little the trigger spring, since it seems the easiest thing to do?...:wink

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 Post subject: Re: 1322 easy way mods.?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:12 pm 
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Order a whole bunch of parts starting with a steel breech. Lots easier to mount a scope or red dot site on the gun.
An RVA to tune velocity, once you have it figured how many pumps gives you the best accuracy.
I believe I have a Crosman breech and a Machined RVA kicking around for sale.

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