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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:57 pm 
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As requested.. thanks..


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:14 pm 
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"Tuning" can mean many things to many people. What are you looking for in a "tune"? Deburring, relubing, new seals, new spring? A conventional "tune kit" from suppliers such as Vortek, V-Mach, Maccari? Perhaps a change in power? Change of piston, piston buttons perhaps?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:56 pm 
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Not the kit type tune, I am looking for a person that knows how to tweek the trigger, lap the barrel, make top hats and adapt the best of the best to make a gun it`s ultimate best..


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:39 am 
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I can do that :rolleyes:

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:43 am 
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There are many people on the forum who can readily do what you are looking for, as long as it's legal (and I'm not implying that you are looking for such "tunes." The question is whether, at this moment in time, they are seeking tune jobs as a source of income; many are kept busy doing work for people in their locale.

Have you checked out the "freelance" thread? A few people there have stated an interest in doing air gun work. Yet, several people I know who take on such work have never advertised, so I won't so presumptuous as to advertise for them. Perhaps you might want to focus your thread by calling for members interested in such work to identify themselves. Outside of the Freelance thread, I don't recall in my time a thread in which those people have identified themselves. I'd guess that they're low-key on the forum so it doesn't become a commercial/competitive environment.

Call out and see what you get. In the meantime, you've got alextermination in your list -- cudos for speaking up, alex. The only problem is, we have no idea where you are geographically. Well yeah, I know - just sayin' :).


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:58 am 
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The biggest problem I see is the person that has "tuned" a couple of their own guns and then hang out their sign as a tuner. I have seen a great number of tuned guns go to a real tuner/airgun-smith to correct issues caused by these self proclaimed tuners. I am not referring to anyone particular, just that there are more wannabes than there are the real thing. In Canada, we have a few of the real thing and they are busy and some no longer accept work for a variety of reasons. Working on a gun with a botched tune job is much harder than working on a gun that has not been touched. You cannot believe the mess that some of these tuners create and call it tuning or modifying.

Those that have been around for a good number of years know what I am talking about. I do feel sorry for some of the new folks that inevitably will become victims of these hacks that call themselves "tuners".

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:11 pm 
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It seems that you gotta be in the loop here to find a real bonafide tuner, I find myself shaking my head.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:55 pm 
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Mac wrote:
The biggest problem I see is the person that has "tuned" a couple of their own guns and then hang out their sign as a tuner. I have seen a great number of tuned guns go to a real tuner/airgun-smith to correct issues caused by these self proclaimed tuners. I am not referring to anyone particular, just that there are more wannabes than there are the real thing. In Canada, we have a few of the real thing and they are busy and some no longer accept work for a variety of reasons. Working on a gun with a botched tune job is much harder than working on a gun that has not been touched. You cannot believe the mess that some of these tuners create and call it tuning or modifying.

Those that have been around for a good number of years know what I am talking about. I do feel sorry for some of the new folks that inevitably will become victims of these hacks that call themselves "tuners".


Very well stated there Mac, you summed that up in a simple explaination of real world facts.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:56 pm 
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the "loop" as you call it comes through a lot of experience and not all of it real pleasant.

All I can say is do you homework and err on the side of caution. Also, there is a great deal of information available on tuning and modifying airguns; sometimes it is better to attempt things yourself or keep your gun original until you are confident that you have found a legitimate tuner. Keep in mind that the information on the internet and Youtube is not always good info. I have seen info that is flat out terrible, whether it be on forums, blogs or YouTube videos. You call the wrong person on their terrible advise and you can find yourself on the bad end of the stick.

Buying a cheaper gun and tuning/modifying it is often more expensive in a number of ways than just buying better quality in the first place. Another lesson many of us have learned the hard/expensive way.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:19 pm 
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I will be receiving back from "Motorhead" my HW95 .22 which he tuned from a stock version, unfortunately Motorheaed, of the GTA forum, is in California, so someone , reliable in Canada would be a good thing..


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I am looking for someone who can do a LEVER 2 tune on my HW 98. I am referring to the level 2 tune that Sy ????? from the UK had done to his 98. I have no idea what it entails but the accuracy he received is what I am after.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:22 pm 
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Daryl wrote:
I am looking for someone who can do a LEVER 2 tune on my HW 98. I am referring to the level 2 tune that Sy ????? from the UK had done to his 98. I have no idea what it entails but the accuracy he received is what I am after.


Sy ????? is Si Pittaway. (Simon Pittaway) VerminHunters TV.
http://www.countrymans-diary.co.uk/inde ... n-pittaway

Perhaps the tune is associated with Sandwell Field Sports. http://www.redonapp.com/ytv/Twg7e2jdAs0 ... -Pittaway-


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:16 pm 
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Penage Guy wrote:
Daryl wrote:
I am looking for someone who can do a LEVER 2 tune on my HW 98. I am referring to the level 2 tune that Sy ????? from the UK had done to his 98. I have no idea what it entails but the accuracy he received is what I am after.


Sy ????? is Si Pittaway. (Simon Pittaway) VerminHunters TV.
http://www.countrymans-diary.co.uk/inde ... n-pittaway

Perhaps the tune is associated with Sandwell Field Sports. http://www.redonapp.com/ytv/Twg7e2jdAs0 ... -Pittaway-

Daryl, here is what was done to my 95, trigger disassembled and tuned to the gun, complete strip of gun ,deb-burring , degreased, top hat and spring guide made to measure for the EOM spring. Lubricants used, Krytoc, oils, and moly in the appropriate zones, barrel lapped ,recrowned, releaded,and waxed. The mating surfaces for barrel lock up were made to work smoother along with caulking arm to reduce friction and make for smoother caulking.
All that said, I only get it in my hands next week, so as they say the proof will be in the pudding. I will report back. Ps I had a Rekord trigger modified and tuned by Sandwell Field Sports, unbelievable!!! Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:35 pm 
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Sry - you are right - Si (Simon) Pittaway.

I am not capable or do not even want to try to do this myself. I al all the work needed on all my own CF rifles, not problem - but air guns leave me a bit confused. Newflife - looking forward to hearing how your rifle performs.

I do not want to lose the 15fpe this rifle gives. Last time out with it, (last Spring) it was shooting quite well - still improving from new, actually with both Predator and Crossman HP's - .22 cal.

The 97 needs nothing done, however smoothing and re-greasing would probably be a good thing- top-hats etc.

The Record triggers are just fine as they are.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:49 pm 
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I think it's not that hard.I have replaced the spring with the vmach kit tuned with a brake hone deburred with 800grit wet dry paper.Changed the barrel to the 98 and honed all parts in the trigger block and a rowan set back trigger and I love my gun.But when I throw it back in the truck and kick it around I like to know I can clean it up.My tx200 can be taken apart and cleaned and lubed in under five minutes and if you use the finish line high flo grease you will get no change from dieseling or the cold weather as I hunt in the snow with the springer and have had good results.
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