Canadian Airgun Forum

The #1 Community for Airguns in Canada!
It is currently Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:51 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours


The Canadian Airgun Forums are a place for people to discuss and learn about airguns and the airgunning sport in Canada. There are lots of discussions about airguns, airgun accessories, reviews, modification and repair information, airgun events, field target and free classifieds!

 

You need to register before you can post: click the register link to proceed. Before you register, please read the forum rules. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own pictures, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple, and absolutely free! To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.








Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:17 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:11 am
Posts: 1
Hey there, I just got my PAL, and I am looking to upgrade my nitro venom dusk for more power.
Before I buy a whole new PAL version gun, I was wondering if anyone knew whether the Nitro Venoms sold within the last year can still be modified for more FPS by plugging the piston bleed hole.

I am bad with taking stuff apart, so before I go through the effort of learning how to do this, I was wondering if anyone has checked on a recent version to see if they have been replaced by a weaker spring and a piston with no bleed hole, as I read the phantoms have been recently. I am aware of the upgrade kits available, but if I am going to spend $100 I would just skip teardowns altogether and spend $150 on the PAL rated one.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:24 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:27 am
Posts: 1108
Location: Thunder Bay,On.
The new Phantoms are still using weak springs as my recent purchase implies.Unless it was old stock.In which case its the luck of the draw as some retailers may have both versions in stock at the same time.Personally I'd rather tear down the non-pal gun and spend the $100.00 extra to boost the power.The reason being because even if you bought the pal version you would want to take it down and clean it up inside anyway:deburr,probably new seal,relube,etc
People on here and you tube videos will guide you through the process but it DOES require care when installing full power springs.You'll be saving a few bucks for sure with a spring kit over the cost of a pal rated $200.00 gun....especially after tax and shipping.If you DO have a "bleeder" with a full power spring then you'll save even MORE money.Check out you tube first and decide if you're up to the challenge...If so then proceed with care and caution.

_________________
The cave you fear to enter....holds the treasure you seek


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:10 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:16 pm
Posts: 1271
Location: United States
I agree, take yours apart before making any decisions. Plus there's a good chance that it can be made full power with just some labor, but if not then just buy the parts needed. A big factor imo is how do you like the gun now, because the next one may not be as accurate.
I think odds are it will have a longer piston but hard to say until you get it open. The caliber is a factor too, so if .22 then it may only have a longer piston which can be cut down. If .177 then it may have a long piston and a hole, or maybe a weaker nitro spring, an extra long piston or some combo of those. Either way we can help explain how to correct it once it's apart and you provide pix, measurements and the nitro's part #.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:17 pm
Posts: 1817
Location: Kingston, ON
You can eliminate the guesswork on the length of the piston by cocking the rifle and observing the angle the barrel makes with the receiver when the piston latches with the trigger. If it's near 90 degrees, it has the long piston, if it is an acute angle it has the short piston - and probably a bleed hole. If you plug the bleed hole it will become PAL rated, maybe not full power but it will be over 500 fps. Do you have a chrony to test it before and after?

_________________

Duke ))))----//----------==


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
News News Site map Site map SitemapIndex SitemapIndex RSS Feed RSS Feed Channel list Channel list

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group

phpBB SEO