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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:59 pm 
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Hello all, I'm Turk, a local T.O. boy. I'm really hoping to pick your guys brains here. I've been working in pest control for the past 7 years and just recently switched over to our wildlife team a few months back. Now on average I do about 3 bird removals a week using a what i feel a very inadequate Ruger Air Hawk 495. It's what my company gave me since I do not have my PAL yet. All the removals are indoors ( mainly food plants and big chain grocery stores). Once I get my PAL I will be buying my own rifle. Question is what kind? So a couple things to know I guess would be budget, I'd like to keep it around 1500- 1700 including a half decent scope. The other is power, I can't go blowing holes in the corrugated roofs of most of these places. I have my mind set on the Air Arms TDR fac simply cause it's very inconspicuous which when walking in a grocery store with a rifle is good. And it looks light and power is adjustable. A heavy gun like the Ruger I'm using now is not user friendly, at least for me. 90% of the birds are Sparrows the others Starlings and Pigeons. Any info would be appreciated since air guns are a new world for me that I'm trying to learn about. Thanks


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:09 pm 
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Hi, Turk - welcome to the CAF!

Sounds like you have a good idea on getting the TDR once you have your PAL.

Should be a very good choice - although a bit pricey.


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Far too much gun for what you are describing. Close quarters. Small birds. Really no need for a PAL rifle, especially with the concern about breaching the building walls. Buy your PAL gun for yourself when the ticket comes, not for this job. If you really think you need a little more power. buy yourself a Crosman PAL 1077 Repeater (600 - 650 fps) from AirGunSource and put a Leapers Bug Buster on it. (total investment: less than $200) Save your $100 bills for something you really want for less confined, more general purposes.

http://www.airgunsource.com/crosman-1077-repeatair/dp/648

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The 1077 will be temperature sensitive (co2) and has a really heavy trigger.

Since your budget is decently high up there, look into a non pal PCP rifle (Air Arms is awesome). They will give you 80 very good shots before needing refill. You can buy a handpump too for $200-300 to fill it in the field.

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Edmonton<500 wrote:
Far too much gun for what you are describing. Close quarters. Small birds. Really no need for a PAL rifle, especially with the concern about breaching the building walls.


I agree with Murray, way to much gun for what you need.
also pcp's air pretty loud not sure if that matters in your case, but I would suggest an HW30s its not a very long riffle, its quite its light has a great trigger and is very accurate with very little recoil out of the box and its supper well made like all HW air guns... slap a scope on it and you wont miss.... 8)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:41 am 
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Welcome to the forum and mafness of airgunning.
I will agree with Ace. For close quarters and pest size an excellent weapon fir dispatching. For pests outside of an enclosure.
Well the choices that there are for PAL rated power are only limited to your wallet. I would suggest an AF Condor in .25 adequate power to take out even mid size pests at extended range. If wood furniture fancies you more there is the AA line, HW, and FX plus others to be considered.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:17 pm 
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Whitewolf:
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I would suggest an AF Condor in .25 adequate power


Not too hot for shooting from the inside? (and I assumed he was looking for a repeater).


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Whitewolf wrote:
Welcome to the forum and mafness of airgunning.
I will agree with Ace. For close quarters and pest size an excellent weapon fir dispatching.
For pests outside of an enclosure.
Well the choices that there are for PAL rated power are only limited to your wallet. I would suggest an AF Condor in .25 adequate power to take out even mid size pests at extended range. If wood furniture fancies you more there is the AA line, HW, and FX plus others to be considered.


Edmonton<500 wrote:
Not too hot for shooting from the inside?


Murray Kim suggested AF Condor in .25 for outdoor, not indoor.... :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:24 am 
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Turk:
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All the removals are indoors ( mainly food plants and big chain grocery stores).


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TriggerHappy 416:
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The 1077 will be temperature sensitive (co2) and has a really heavy trigger.


Agreed, but this is indoor, short-range shooting. The trigger is just a matter of getting used to. Rifle is darned accurate as a shooter. Just sayin' OP does not have to spend his substantial budget on a rifle for this task (assuming he may want to buy another rifle for different purposes)

If money is no object, Turk, build yourself an Drozd Blackbird. extended barrel, high-speed chip, and HPA powered. You'll still have $500 bucks left over for other things. Velocity is high, FPE is low, and the gun is very "forgiving" as far as user accuracy is concerned. :mrgreen:


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