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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:44 am 
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Hello everyone, I am a new commer here. Nice to meet you all. I just got a Crossman 2240. It's wonderful. Now I plan to have a Crosman 1377(US made), But it looks like it's not sold anywhere in Toronto. I tryed the dealer list in this forum, but they all do the wholesale not retail. Anybody knows how exactly can I buy one in Toronto? Please tell me, thank you in advance.
I am also looking for an air rifle, .22 more than 1000FPS, but I don't like break barrel one. Anybody give me some advice? Thanks again.


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Did you check this dealer :?:
http://www.dlairgun.com/Crosman.htm

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if you have your pal then there are alot of options if you dont there is no option

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http://www.dlairgun.com/
http://www.sirmailorder.ca/show_subcat. ... b845a4240e
http://store.airgunforum.ca/

as for what .22 +1000 fps airguns ur pretty much limited to pcp or highly modded C02 unless someone else knows of other non breakbarrel guns shoot that high


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NOTE: it occured to me after that you want a american 1377 to save the hassle why not get a canadian one from one of the above places and detune it? but then again you would need a restricted pal not just a regular one

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For a .22 over 1000 fps if you have your PAL
https://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutd ... h=27_32_55

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thanks for reply, this Tuesday I went to international import ltd. which is shown in the dealer list, I was told it's OK to buy a US made 1377, but the gun was sold out and I had to wait for 1 week. But today, I called again they said they only do the wholesale rather than retail. I was totally confused. That's why I don't know which dealer is doing the retail. Anyway I will apply for the PAL and try some other dealer ASAP.


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If you have a Possession Only License (POL) then after your PAL course it should only take a couple weeks to get the license.

If not there is no ASAP. I heard the license application (after the course) takes a while to process. It goes through 2 x 28 days Cooling Off periods and then the licensing department gets a hold of it. So the earliest you can expect one after submitting the application, after taking the course, is 60 days - probably longer.

I am mailing my application for my PAL in this coming Monday... so I guess I'm going to witness the application process first hand.

Oh well gives you plenty of time to figure out where to purchase that 1377 from.

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Russell Sports has the Cr1377 for $52.99. They sell retail.
http://www.russellsports.com/files/121-140hs06.pdf

LeBaron also sells the Cr1377. Price is $59.94. They sell retail.
http://www.lebaron.ca/pdf_fall_06_07/ou ... istols.pdf

You will likely have to go with a precharged pneumatic (PCP) if you want over 1000fps from a .22 rifle (non-break barrel). The total price gets pretty high after you get the pump or scuba tank.

If you lower your expectations to 700fps then the HW97 might satisfy your needs (under lever). Price is $492 At SSS.
https://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutd ... h=27_32_51

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TCooper wrote:
Russell Sports has the Cr1377 for $52.99. They sell retail.
http://www.russellsports.com/files/121-140hs06.pdf

LeBaron also sells the Cr1377. Price is $59.94. They sell retail.
http://www.lebaron.ca/pdf_fall_06_07/ou ... istols.pdf

You will likely have to go with a precharged pneumatic (PCP) if you want over 1000fps from a .22 rifle (non-break barrel). The total price gets pretty high after you get the pump or scuba tank.

If you lower your expectations to 700fps then the HW97 might satisfy your needs (under lever). Price is $492 At SSS.
https://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutd ... h=27_32_51

Cheers,
Todd


Correction: Russel Sports Catalog says that the 1377 is $52.99 but apparently there is a mistake in the Catalog and it is really priced at $74.99...They wouldnt honor their mistake when I pointed it out to them either...

So I got one at Wholesale Sports for $59.99...I think there are still some in stock as of Sept 06-06...


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Thanks guys,
I got a 1377 from le bron last friday. It was a Canadian version 495 FPS. It is really very accurate. But it is not as powerful as what I expected. I tryed to shoot a skunk in 5m in my back yard, I shooted it for twice, the pellets hit it, but didn't kill it even not wounded. As my experience I once killed a skunk in 7~8m with 2240 with a single shot. I don't know is there any problem with my 1377. Anybody has some idea?


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You should've gotten a 2289 if you wanted to hunt. Though unseen, I'm pretty sure you wounded the skunk and it's probably suffering now. Do not hunt with a .177 airgun with a velocity under 500. The consequences of not landing a perfect shot (having the pest/small game suffer) is inhumane and should be avoided. I suppose if you wanted to get rid of skunks damaging your property, you should stick with your 2240 for now.


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Yikes, never use a 400 fps .177 cal pistol for hunting please. Even a 2240 is not really humaine.


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Shot placement is the key. A perfect shot requires less power to knock down your target, and a good or average shot would require much more power, relatively speaking. Don't hunt with your 1377 unless you can 100% hit the eye of the skunk everytime. 8)


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with all due respect it isnt just hitting the sweet spot it is getting the perfect angle as well you need to be aiming straight at the skunks face given a 3 degree angle to either lateral extream and 5-10 degrees down on the longitudinal extream so you dont hit the inside of the eye socket (hitting skull and just taking out the eye)

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Thanks, I will get a 2289 today.
What about raccoon? anybody has idea about how close to shoot with a 2289 can take a raccoon down?


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You really gotta be careful shooting small game with any sub 500fps airgun. There are people who will tell you it's OK, but I still wouldn't recommend it. If you aren't perfectly accurate on a moving target, you'll end up wounding the animal and causing it unnecessary pain. Pest or not, the kill should be humane.
If you've got a problem with skunks and racoons in your area, either get your PAL and do it right, or use live traps.
Also, I'm sure no matter where you live in Canada, there are small game hunting restrictions you have to adhere to.
My $0.02...

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