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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:16 pm 
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Just got in a Custom modded 357 from a member here... finally had a chance to shoot it today...but no go.

Seems to have a metal bar that moves a bit but always stays in the way of the hammer hitting the firing valve. Never remember seeing anything like this before,

Any suggestions?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:34 pm 
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the lil bar looks right . it rises up and the hammer hits it and inturn hits the valve pin , then it drops down .
maybe somthing down farther if catching it


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:40 pm 
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Just looked at mine (which is a early model). With the hammer cocked the bar on mine is in the up position in front of the firing pin and stays there for the hammer to hit. It only drops down when you release the trigger.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:41 pm 
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It's the same with older and newer .357 pistols. This is a pic of my old and new version.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:46 pm 
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Problem is that my bar stays up and doesn't drop when the hammer falls.

Impossible to fire it with the bar blocking the valve pin - it doesn't move at all when the hammer drops... :?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:50 pm 
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Actually I just looked at mine again. With the hammer cocked that bar is sort of free to move back and forth. If the gun is tilted forward, sort of muzzle down, it rest against the firing pin. If you tilt the gun back a bit it freely moves back into a position just like in your pictures. The hammer carries it forward to strike the firing pin when fired.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:52 pm 
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wllm995 wrote:
Problem is that my bar stays up and doesn't drop when the hammer falls.

Impossible to fire it with the bar blocking the valve pin - it doesn't move at all when the hammer drops... :?

You're missing the point. That bar is required to be up for the gun to fire. The hammer hits that bar and drives it against the valve pin firing the gun.

The bar drops when the trigger is released (allowed to move forward). If it didn't drop from in front of the valve pin then if the hammer was pressed or struck forward then the valve would open releasing CO2.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:15 pm 
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Hammer down (safety off):

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Nothing against the valve pin...Bar is locked in place.

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To get a better look try this. First take off the safety. With the gun pointed muzzle down cock the gun - note the bar across the valve pin. Now fire the gun but don't release the trigger. While still holding the trigger back, ease the hammer back slightly, just enough to peek in to see the position of the bar. It should still be up across the valve pin. Now with the hammer just eased back release the trigger - you should see the bar fall.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:31 pm 
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Looks like your revolver is on safe in those pix.


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Just noticed that in the last series of pictures you posted the hammer is not up against the safety. What is holding it back? When my hammer is released, but the safety is on, the hammer is solidly against the safety held there by spring tension.

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Hammer down (safety on):

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:43 pm 
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lleader wrote:
Just noticed that in the last series of pictures you posted the hammer is not up against the safety. What is holding it back? When my hammer is released, but the safety is on, the hammer is solidly against the safety held there by spring tension.


Safety on or off - the small metal bar holds back the hammer.

Clear to see in pic 3 of both series...


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:49 pm 
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That's not right. The hammer isn't even up against the safety. Can you push it forward against the safety or is something internal holding it back? If so, that may be your problem - the hammer isn't moving forward enough when fired to even strike the bar/valve pin combo.

On my gun the hammer is firmly against the safety when not cocked, and if the safety is off the hammer is firmly against the frame of the gun forward of the safety position - held there by spring pressure.

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What does your seller have to say about this phenomenon?


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