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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:50 pm 
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I see they are listing the Cricket for sale in two versions, both with no stock...just the action. I assume this is because the stock gun is prohib?
I'm not looking to open up the bullpup debate here. I just thought it was interesting that they're making the actions available. I think it may be difficult to them source the stock to go with it?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:33 pm 
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They appear to be sub-500 fps devices. Perhaps that circumvents certain restrictions.


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Penage Guy wrote:
They appear to be sub-500 fps devices. Perhaps that circumvents certain restrictions.


Perhaps, but then why no stock?

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fishguy wrote:
Penage Guy wrote:
They appear to be sub-500 fps devices. Perhaps that circumvents certain restrictions.


Perhaps, but then why no stock?


Just guessing here that maybe they become "firearms" with the stock and then certain restrictions come into play.


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That's my thinking, that the factory stock with the action is not approved. So if someone was to buy one of the actions they have for sale you'd have to have a custom stock fabricated that is not the same as the factory stock. Probably one that made it more of a traditional style rifle than the bullpup.

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IMHO someone needs to buy one and have it drop shipped to Mr Hickey for a custom build. Thats my take upon it.

Pertaining to a long version here not the bullpup. That is most likly the reason they are attempting sales of the full action here and it sub 500fps rating. Gotta love the Canadian firearm laws and their discriptions.

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Whitewolf wrote:
IMHO someone needs to buy one and have it drop shipped to Mr Hickey for a custom build. Thats my take upon it.

Pertaining to a long version here not the bullpup. That is most likly the reason they are attempting sales of the full action here and it sub 500fps rating. Gotta love the Canadian firearm laws and their discriptions.


That's exactly what I as thinking. Give it to Joe for a year and see what amazing creation he comes up with. Any volunteers?

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Just had a look ,shows no stock . Would have to do some work on moving the trigger to the rear ,if thinking of a conventional rifle . For that kind of money might as well build a custom frankengun :D . With help from fellow members here of course.

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It's an interesting project idea, but would be quite expensive I think. Without modifying the factory action I don't see how you can do anything with it without mounting it into a bull pup stock thereby making it illegal. Someone with a shop may have some alternative ideas.

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Once again the bullpup issue confuses me. My understanding was that bullpups are okay as long as they were built as bullpups at the factory. Obviously I'm missing something. :?: :?: :?:


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Once again the bullpup issue confuses me. My understanding was that bullpups are okay as long as they were built as bullpups at the factory. Obviously I'm missing something. :?: :?: :?:


Don't think you're missing anything...obviously the Tavor TAR-21 is non-restricted.

Specifically talking about the Cricket, the short-barrelled ones would be restricted, but the longer-barrelled ones should be non-restricted.

Edit: maybe the shroud is an issue if it's got suppression capabilities?


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fishguy wrote:
It's an interesting project idea, but would be quite expensive I think. Without modifying the factory action I don't see how you can do anything with it without mounting it into a bull pup stock thereby making it illegal. Someone with a shop may have some alternative ideas.




You would just shorten the trigger linkage re thread 4 mm and slide the weaver rail trigger bracket back to beginning of air cylinder take less than 5 mins with a hack saw and 4mm die


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Edmonton<500 wrote:
Once again the bullpup issue confuses me. My understanding was that bullpups are okay as long as they were built as bullpups at the factory. Obviously I'm missing something. :?: :?: :?:

I may be wrong, but I think you are correct. The ones offered at AGS do not have shrouds, so no issue there either.

If I was to buy an action, I think I would just source a stock from the US. They do go on sale from time to time when someone goes to custom wood.

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Sorry to dig this up but I was looking at Type 90 bullpups today and asked why they were non restricted. In order to meet standards for a non restricted firearm the rifle must have a barrel over 18.5 inches and have the stock and trigger set up in a way that prevents the firearm from being fired without the stock. So to make her legal just find a way to mount the trigger and sear in the stock instead of on the action.

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