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 Post subject: Airgun storage info
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:38 am 
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So something has me a little confused. As most of us know a couple years back the RCMP changed the classification of Airguns under 500 fps and above a certain muzzle energy, (correct me but I though it was 6J) to "uncontrolled firearms." In typical RCMP fashion the change in how private owners are supposed to store and use them was muddy at best. So, how are we meant to store our non-Pal Airguns? By this I mean what is the LETTER of the law? Personally I don't have a proper locker yet but I store them in purpose hard cases out of immediate sight, trigger locked and separate from ammunition. I'm moving soon so I would like to keep things more minimalist, so if a tall locked cabinet will do it would be ideal.


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 Post subject: Re: Airgun storage info
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:44 am 
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Trigger lock them.


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 Post subject: Re: Airgun storage info
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:52 am 
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If they are not a firearm, they are therefore just 'objects'...

Like anything in life, a little common sense goes a long way.
- You wouldn't store your kitchen knives on the living room coffee table... for fear the kids would hurt themselves with them... right?
- Same goes for a non-pal pellet gun...


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 Post subject: Re: Airgun storage info
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:39 pm 
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There was no practical change from that ruling, it really only impacted airguns used as weapons. The RCMP information on airguns is at http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/air_gun-arme_air-eng.htm

From that link:

"These air guns are exempt from the specific safe storage, transportation and handling requirements set out in the regulations supporting the Firearms Act. However, the Criminal Code requires that reasonable precautions be taken to use, carry, handle, store, transport and ship them in a safe and secure manner."

You're currently going way beyond the requirements, technically you don't even need to lock them up. Personally my non-PAL rifles are stored in boxes under my bed and the pellets/BBs are elsewhere out of reach.


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 Post subject: Re: Airgun storage info
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:02 pm 
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From what I know your sub 500 fps airguns are still treated as uncontrolled firearms since they all have muzzle energies under 5.7 joules or 4.2 foot pounds and their muzzle velocities are under 500 fps. These airguns are exempt from safe storage and handling; although placing a trigger/cable lock on them won't hurt. If you have them in a locked case or container, that's even better as it gets you in the habit of safe storage in case you want to go the powderburning route one day.
The only time your uncontrolled firearm gets treated as a regular firearm is when you utilize it to commit a crime.
You're perfectly fine with your present storage routine as you have gone above and beyond the call of duty.

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 Post subject: Re: Airgun storage info
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:25 pm 
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Awesome thank you very much everybody! If I don't have to look for a locked container, then I'll defiantly grab an IKEA tall dresser and make a proper place I can store them and my tools together. May as well keep them trigger locked for pease of mind should anyone break in. I'll worry about a proper safe once I'm in a position to own a couple of powder burners. Also thanks for the link cbf123 ima add it to a favourites list I have for firearms info.


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 Post subject: Re: Airgun storage info
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:46 pm 
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I don't mean to hijack the topic but I have a related question:

If I don't own a car, can I transfer a non-pal airgun in my backpack if it's unloaded and in a safe container to shoot at my friend's place?


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 Post subject: Re: Airgun storage info
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:26 pm 
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Since it is non PAL, it is not considered a firearm. However, since a lot of people, including cops, are wary of anything looking like a firearm you could be stopped and questioned. Maybe someone with more knowledge could give you better advice.


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 Post subject: Re: Airgun storage info
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:32 pm 
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vortex619 wrote:
I don't mean to hijack the topic but I have a related question:

If I don't own a car, can I transfer a non-pal airgun in my backpack if it's unloaded and in a safe container to shoot at my friend's place?

Technically, yes. Same as walking outta the store with a new purchase - there's no law saying you can't ride your bike, or take a bus home. . . .

Practically, maybe. Best to ensure you haven't got any "gun bits" showing, to avoid having to answer any prying questions. . . .

Pistol case for hand tools; Guitar Case(?) for shoulder-ables. . . For the same reasons the Mob used violin cases for their SMG's. . . . :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Airgun storage info
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Thanks guys


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 Post subject: Re: Airgun storage info
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:04 am 
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Though general public may look at you funny, may police officers would rather you use a purpose gun case rather than a tool case or guitar case. The reason is that your actually following letter of the law, when using "purpose" designed carry cases, better than using other less conspicuous cases. Not only that but if for what ever reason you may be stopped, a bad officer may attempt to charge you with concealment, over transport issues. Regardless so long as it's not being used in a crime, a non-pal Airgun is just an object, no different from transporting any other item.


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 Post subject: Re: Airgun storage info
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:23 pm 
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When I began my obsession, sorry, the hobby of airguns I kept my airguns in locked cases with no trigger locks.
But then the quantity of cases got unmanageable and I bought cabinets.
So far I'm up to two rifle cabinets and two tool chests (for the pistols).

I keep mine locked up not for legality as much as security. Should somebody chose to break into my house I don't want them to have easy access to them.

As for transporting your airguns, it's only responsible to have them in either a hard or soft case unloaded.
And carry them discreetly. Occasionally you hear a news report of somebody with an air rifle slung over their shoulder walking about town :?

Storing your airguns in an IKEA cabinet will do until you can afford proper cabinets. It will keep them out of sight, secure and out of the hands of teenagers. They can so often make bad choices.

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