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 Post subject: PAL question.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:36 pm 
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Hi guys.
I was wondering, what happens when you take a none pal airgun and mod it to more than 500fps.
My guess is that you then have to register it, but do you explain it to the registration Officer?


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 Post subject: Re: PAL question.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:48 pm 
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zazu45 wrote:
Hi guys.
I was wondering, what happens when you take a none pal airgun and mod it to more than 500fps.
My guess is that you then have to register it, but do you explain it to the registration Officer?


Hasn't been a long gun registry in over 3 years. As long as you got a firearm license. Just treat it as a firearm.


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 Post subject: Re: PAL question.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:25 pm 
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Would be different if it fell into the RPAL category, not worth the grief of going there.


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 Post subject: Re: PAL question.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:47 pm 
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Just to summarize and expand on the previous answers, it depends on whether it's a rifle or a handgun. If you modify a non-PAL (unregulated) rifle to exceed both velocity and energy limitations (500FPS and 5.7 Joules), you have created a non-restricted firearm, which requires a PAL, but no registration is required.

If you do the same to an unregulated handgun, you have created a restricted firearm, and you must hold an RPAL, register the gun, and follow all restrictions as if it were a powder-burning handgun (e.g., follow all storage and transportation regulations, shoot it only at an approved range, etc.).

The former is a common occurrence, such as when an owner upgrades an unregulated rifle to a non-restricted rifle after acquiring his/her PAL. The latter, as was previously stated, is a nightmare and only appropriate for bureaucracy-tolerant customizers.

Hope that helps.


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 Post subject: Re: PAL question.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:03 am 
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As already mentioned, no need to register it, as there are no longer a "long gun registry".

A few things to keep in mind in modding a non-pal air rifle to a PAL rated air rifle.

- Storage and transportation rules for non-pal airgun are pretty loose... out of sight, out of mind.
-- For PAL rated airgun, you got to play by the rules: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-f ... ge-eng.htm
-- Failure to do so is a criminal offence (not just a fine)

- Municipal discharge bylaw. When it's PAL rated, you got to play by the same rules as a firearm. It might no longer be legal to use in your backyard...

- Selling it. Once it's PAL rated, you have to again play by the rules: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-f ... re-eng.htm
-- Failure to do so is a criminal offence.


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