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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:37 pm 
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Yikes. :shock: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a1hrms0i2LU

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:03 pm 
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Call pin the valve and depressurize it when your taking it apart.

That what you call someone with a Hipac and doesn't care about safety. I know one guy that run 2800 PSI with a Hipac and all he has is a single 8-32 stainless screw. We cringe when he talks about it. Now I wont run more than 2200 PSI and I got 3 #10 high tensile screws pinning the valve.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:13 pm 
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Lucky to be alive after that.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:43 pm 
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If only it were an actual PCP. . . .That gun is not a PCP. They're being very generous with the term, in the video description. . . .

Proof positive, that "Modding" done incorrectly, can be very dangerous. Very Lucky indeed . . . .

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:06 pm 
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leadslinger wrote:
Call pin the valve and depressurize it when your taking it apart.

Totally agree.

That what you call someone with a Hipac and doesn't care about safety. I know one guy that run 2800 PSI with a Hipac and all he has is a single 8-32 stainless screw. We cringe when he talks about it. Now I wont run more than 2200 PSI and I got 3 #10 high tensile screws pinning the valve.


Who is "we", and have "we" bothered to have a closer look at the situation??

http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/t ... +the+hipac



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:22 pm 
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Exactly Al, that is 100% miss Mod on another 2240 platform not a manufactured PCP Airgun plus how old is this vid now, at least 2 year's or more since the first time I saw it, but it's a good reminder for the news's on this is how quickly thing's can go wrong with mod's on these gun's, you can go the inexspense mod way to possibly your grave or go through the trouble of going to the forum expert's on how to do it right with the part's that don't blow up. YOUR LIFE IS WORTH THE MONEY!!! Guy's and Gal's.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:29 am 
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Sorry....I never saw this video before but glad I did......next time I'll check with all you long time residents of CAF before I post "old news".Lord knows there has been no new members since this came out..... that haven't seen it yet....or could benefit from its message.....EVERY post on here is meant for YOUR eyes only right?.....please....

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MyCrosman wrote:
peterdulux wrote:
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Sorry....I never saw this video before but glad I did......next time I'll check with all you long time residents of CAF before I post "old news".Lord knows there has been no new members since this came out..... that haven't seen it yet....or could benefit from its message.....EVERY post on here is meant for YOUR eyes only right?.....please....


Been around since 2012 and never hear negativity on the hipac unit?

The owner is banned from many airgun sites and discussion of the units are frowned apon.

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leadslinger wrote:
Call pin the valve and depressurize it when your taking it apart.

Totally agree.

That what you call someone with a Hipac and doesn't care about safety. I know one guy that run 2800 PSI with a Hipac and all he has is a single 8-32 stainless screw. We cringe when he talks about it. Now I wont run more than 2200 PSI and I got 3 #10 high tensile screws pinning the valve.


Who is "we", and have "we" bothered to have a closer look at the situation??

http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/t ... +the+hipac



Al


Couple guys on GTA, when this member talks about filling his to 2800 PSI.


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MyCrosman wrote:
peterdulux wrote:
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Sorry....I never saw this video before but glad I did......next time I'll check with all you long time residents of CAF before I post "old news".Lord knows there has been no new members since this came out..... that haven't seen it yet....or could benefit from its message.....EVERY post on here is meant for YOUR eyes only right?.....please....



No need to be a jerk.


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The mans got a point though. Many new members or those getting into pcps for the first time may never have seen this video.I haven't either and I'm just a little better off for it after watching it.Didn't realize the potential danger of those types of guns.Wow.That's deadly stuff.Lucky there were no kids playing about in the room but not so lucky for him.Lesson learned I bet.For ME also.


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The mans got a point though. Many new members or those getting into pcps for the first time may never have seen this video.I haven't either and I'm just a little better off for it after watching it.Didn't realize the potential danger of those types of guns.Wow.That's deadly stuff.Lucky there were no kids playing about in the room but not so lucky for him.Lesson learned I bet.For ME also.


There is proper ways of doing things, and there is the incorrect. This was the incorrect method.


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The mans got a point though. Many new members or those getting into pcps for the first time may never have seen this video.I haven't either and I'm just a little better off for it after watching it.Didn't realize the potential danger of those types of guns.Wow.That's deadly stuff.Lucky there were no kids playing about in the room but not so lucky for him.Lesson learned I bet.For ME also.



Yeah...I was surprised of how much energy was stored in those guns.....worst thing that happened to me with my phantom was when my spring compressor clamp slipped off and sent the spring guide, spring, etc. flying into the living room...Took me a half hour to find the washers.lol... :)

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Just a fraction of the stored energy stored can send a projectile down range at +600fps. Yeah lets just mess with that air tube while it's charged. :roll:

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If the valve is properly secured, and if the HiPAC is not one of those with an over-drilled ID such as Alex has admitted happened to some unknown number of units (he says his machinist over-bored them accidentally and he doesn't measure every one, or even any of them really), then there really shouldn't be a safety issue with dismantling the gun while the HiPAC is under pressure. It's not like the thing is going to magically explode, just because someone has removed the grip frame and breech. Problem there was that the valve was NOT properly secured, the HiPAC had been chopped off and epoxied into place pressurizing the main tube, and as I understood it the front grip frame bolt was the only thing left holding the valve in place. He unscrewed that bolt. What did he expect to happen? Plainly not what happened, as no one deliberately puts a 3/4" hole in their leg. But he wasn't thinking, both in building the gun this way and in dismantling what was essentially a big bore cannon with the valve as projectile while under pressure. It's idiotic, and even in his supposed apology video the guy is making excuses and still partially blaming the HiPAC.

Powermax (HiPAC) quality control is very inconsistent. The machine work inside some of the units is outright bad, very rough work, while others actually look quite good. Specs vary, apparently at random. Battles with leaks are very common. But if properly used, the valve strongly secured, with a HiPAC unit which hasn't been worked too thin under the rear O-ring groove, there really shouldn't be any safety issue. The guy in the video played stupid games and won a stupid prize, that's all.

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By the way, Rutsup, this is me being a bit pedantic but accuracy in this sort of thing can be important. It is not possible for you to have seen this video at least two years ago, as it was only uploaded on September 12th of 2015, slightly longer than 13 months ago. Time does weird things in memory, I know, but Youtube has the date right there...


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