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 Post subject: Crosman 760 Pumpmaster
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:25 pm 
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I have the Crosman M4-177 and it is very accurate.However I recently broke the stock by holding it the wrong way while pumping ( this is known to happen in many cases). I have glued it together but if it does not hold for future, I am considering the 760 which is less expensive and built on the same platform. I target shoot indoors at 18 feet with a small laser on the 11mm. rail
Does anyone have personal opinions on the Pumpmaster?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:30 pm 
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The 760 is a different rifle, not only by aesthetics, but the pump tube is shorter and has about 1/2''-3/4'' less stroke, so it has a bit less power. However, I do have the two latest models of 760 (and also an M4-177), and I love them. They have the same 5 shots magazines as the M4. You can scope them if you want, they have a dovetail rail on top of the receiver, even though it's plastic, but the open sights are quite decent. All in all, a good, reliable and rather accurate plinker.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:50 pm 
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airmec wrote:
The 760 is a different rifle, not only by aesthetics, but the pump tube is shorter and has about 1/2''-3/4'' less stroke, so it has a bit less power. However, I do have the two latest models of 760 (and also an M4-177), and I love them. They have the same 5 shots magazines as the M4. You can scope them if you want, they have a dovetail rail on top of the receiver, even though it's plastic, but the open sights are quite decent. All in all, a good, reliable and rather accurate plinker.


Thanks for your comments airmec.I shoot this at 25 feet ( not 18 as mentioned) so 760 should be as accurate for that distance.
I assume the 760 on Amazon.ca ( best price with free delivery ) is the current model.

I checked out reviews on the Crosman 1077 repeater but seems there are reported issues with CO2 leaks and low shot count plus heavy trigger.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:50 pm 
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I should have added that the 760 has a smooth bore barrel, so you may expect a bit less accuracy from it compared to the M4, but did you know that the pump tube assembly and rifled barrel of the M4 are a direct fit on the 760? :wink:

Regarding the 1077, mine has no leaks, and I get around 50 shots out of it. Yes, the trigger pull is heavy, but there are mods you can do to improve it. This one, amongst others: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ2WErNtYGg


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For the 760 check Princess Auto. I bought the kit there a few months ago (guess the post was deleted, can't locate it) that had quite a few add-ons for I think $49 on sale.
Wasn't aware that it had a smooth bore till Airmec mentioned it, which surprised me as I find it so accurate, it never occurred it wasn't rifled. I have both and quite enjoy the M4-177 mainly for he open sights and like how the 5 shot clips are interchangeable. But bare in mind that the 760 feels like a cheap toy compared to the M4, it's super lightweight and short. I bought it mainly for my 6yo to practice with since it's the only rifle that's suitable for him. You may find it too small/light. Although I like the sights (no silly fibre optics) and the power is plenty for your range.

The 1077 is another fave of mine (wife's no. 1 choice, the M4 being her second - just as long as I do the pumping for her) and will look at the trigger mod airmec posted. But it's louder than the others, should noise be an issue.

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Thanks for all comments. For an extra $30.00 approx.,I will probably get another M4-177 for my pellet shooting since I know it produces
great results and the build quality better than 760 and 1077.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:35 am 
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I also have a broken M4-177. It was accurate and fun to shoot. I don't know if I will bother to fix it. Thinking of trying to put the barrel on a 760 pumpmaster.

My 760 pumpmaster lives in the garage waiting for me to shoot a few rounds as I pass through! It is fun, easy to shoot and I like to plink with it at short range. I shoot this more than
any other airgun I own. It seems to like the cheap Daisy wadcutters pretty well.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:52 am 
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As I mentioned, my broken stock is glued back on. I now cup my left hand over the top sight rail ( directly above the grip) when pumping and not resting on any surface. Since I use a small laser sight, I have room to grasp securely.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:12 am 
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Before you go out and spend that much on the M4 u may consider getting the Daisy 953 instead. This is what I did (the M4 was my first and was a big hit with myself and wife) but having the 953 made it hard to go back to the M4 - and as mentioned above, we really liked the M4. If you look around you may even find it for less. It too has a 5 shot magazine and it only requires a single pump. Which gives you about as much power as around 8 pumps in the M4. And it's even more accurate. Nice ergonomics too as it resembles a rifle more than a carbine, which is an added advantage since it offers more in the way of experience not to mention a good weight/balance. I hate the fibre optics sights in it but that can be rectified with a red dot or cheap scope. Or if you want to top the sights in the M4, a peep sight is available for the 953 (at a cost similar or higher to the gun itself).

No comparison between the 953 and the 760. Although I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss the 1077. Even though it uses CO2, it is the quietest of all CO2 guns I have and even if you live in an apartment you may get away with the noise.

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Thanks Joolz. Actually, I had a 953 and while it was accurate, a bit heavy for my senior arms ( standing or sitting braced on knee) plus a little more decibel level. The M4 does the job and very comfortable in any stance. Four pumps is all I need for 25 feet.

Having said that, I note that Edmonton<500 has a couple if 953 for sale.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:00 am 
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And a fine choice it is!
If mine was to break I'd definitely be getting another. It and the 953 are my go to guns, the ones that I just have to fire a shot from once in a while and the ones that yield much gratification. With that said, I want to ensure it doesn't get broken. Can you describe how you used to pump and hold it that caused so much stress? Honestly I never did pay attention to it but seeing how it's lasted this long I may be doing it right. Or maybe just got lucky thus far. I also hardly pump it more than 5 times.
Btw hope you can hold off till you find it on sale. Paid $59 for mine on sale at Can Tire a couple of years ago and where I doubt it'd ever be this low again, I don't think I could justify that $120 or so normal price.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:34 am 
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For the grasp during pumping, refer to my post a few entries above this one. Best to hold it away from pressure on any surface and get the right push/pull rythym .Left hand grip on top toward rear and right hand near bottom of pump handle. Mine broke at seam where stock is attached.

I have been reviewing the Crosman Raven break- barrel which gets high marks for accuracy and compactness but a hard and long trigger travel. ( $87 for this and $110 for the M4 ) on Amazon.ca plus free shipping and tax not charged.


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Should you find the weight of a youth springer to be about the same as the 953, this may interest you: just received a princess auto flyer, the 760 Pumpmaster will be on sale starting next Tuesday for $49.99. Not sure if this is just the rifle or the same kit I got that comes with pellets, shooting glasses, scope/rings and some BBs. But it sure is light and easy to pump.

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Joolz wrote:
Should you find the weight of a youth springer to be about the same as the 953, this may interest you: just received a princess auto flyer, the 760 Pumpmaster will be on sale starting next Tuesday for $49.99. Not sure if this is just the rifle or the same kit I got that comes with pellets, shooting glasses, scope/rings and some BBs. But it sure is light and easy to pump.


Thanks, I will call local store Monday , but we don't always get the same good deals as out your way.

BTW, My M4 broke today two weeks since I glued. I guess it dries up and the bond just gives way.
Will have a skilled family member try another fix eventually.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:28 pm 
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Was at Can Tire early this morning loading up on their sale. Saw the M4-177 listed for $144. So yeah, definitely try and fix yours. Not that $144 is a realistic price for that gun but then again that appears to be the trend for any airgun sold at CT.
I think I understand how yours was broken. Will be that much more careful pumping mine now.

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