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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:45 pm 
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Looking at scopes for my Condor that is coming soon. I'll be shooting indoors at about 25 feet then outside out to maybe 50 yards for the most part. There will be some long range shooting out to 100 yards on occasion.

I'm trying to find a scope that can do all this, which may be asking for too much on my part? Are there a few scopes that can handle close range shooting then go out to the 100 yard range and do both limits well? I'm not looking to drop mega bucks, hoping for anything up to about $300 max.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:30 pm 
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Most scopes with an adjustable objective only focus to about 10 yards, and you are shooting closer than that, but if you use a low magnification on the scope, such as 3-4 X and set at 10 yards your target will likely be clear enough for accurate shooting at 25 ft.... Any scope will focus for the longer distances.... and you can use more magnification, but I would not recommend more than about 12X except for shooting off a bench.... and even 9X is certainly plenty for 50 yards.... That would mean that many of the 3-9 or 4-12 X AO scopes should do you just fine.... I would look for something with at least a 40mm objective, if you use a 32mm you will suffer a dimmer image at the higher powers.... There are lots of reasonably priced scopes that meet those criteria.... and on a Condor you don't need to worry about a "airgun rated" scope like you would with a Springer....

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:04 pm 
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here you go - https://www.dlairgun.com/Scopes/Leapers ... AOIEW.html

I prefer this one with etched reticle- beautifully clear and sharp and have 2 of them - one on the Brocock .22 PCP and one on my HW97 - both for rat shooting from point blank to 50/60 yards.

https://www.dlairgun.com/Scopes/Leapers ... AOIEW.html

The lower powers focus just fine closer in that 10 m, and of course, 12X is great for 'fine' field-rat-head-shooting to 50 or even 70 meters.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:08 pm 
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This is the scope I put on my Condor .25, only in the 6-24X version. Really cool with the 6" shade on the front!

https://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutd ... oduct_info

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:23 pm 
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Thanks for the replies guys. Bob I was thinking right along those lines so I must be on the right track.

Daryl, those are good scopes, my only concern would be they're both compact scopes and I may lose a little longer range ability with them? They may also look a little funny on the Condor given their shorter length?

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I have a leapers 3×9×32 bug buster with a AO of 3 yrds to infinity.

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Here's my vote . I've got two and have had no issues with either. Came with rings and bikini style lens covers. Focus down to 10 yards maybe a bit less . Once you go to an FFP scope it's hard to look through an SFP (IMO) . Lots of reviews online for the same scope only available in the states , not Springer rated but not an issue if mounting to an Air Force rifle . I did a quick review here on the scope a while back. It took just under two weeks to get from China ( which is the same place all inexpensive scopes come from including bushnell,UTG, Hawke etc.)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Origina ... 2bf0348962

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:21 am 
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FFP scopes are usually more expensive than SFP scopes. Which one to choose usually depends on the purpose for which the scope is used. Generally a SFP scope is used when target shooting at known distances where range finding is not an issue. The rule of thumb that you get what you pay for is often (though not always) true.

For further reading on FFP vs SFP, see the following:
http://www.scout.com/military/snipers-h ... ocal-plane
http://albertatacticalrifle.com/why-us/ ... ffp-vs-sfp
http://www.shootingtimes.com/optics/opt ... cs_101107/

For the purposes outlined in the OP, a 6-24 scope with adjustable parallax and a relatively fine reticle should be considered. The higher power magnification is very useful for target shooting at 50 yards out to 100. The now-discontinued Hawke Varmint with a mil-dot reticle and side focus would have fit the bill; perhaps the newer Hawke Vantage 6-24x44 with SF still does. https://www.dlairgun.com/Scopes/Hawke/0 ... 14162.html


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:28 am 
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BSA AR 312X44

I recently got two of these. Air-gun rated. So far very happy. This model does NOT have the mil-dot (I dont care) but a similar model does.

One is on a TR-77NPS with a brutal shot cycle, the other on a NP Trail.

I see $180 bucks up here, but I paid $95.00 direct from China.

Excellent optics and eye relief (3"). AO down to 10 yards, but it turns a little more, so maybe 8 yards.
1.25 pounds which is fine with me. Guess I'm old fashioned and equate quality with weight :)

Anything less than a Weihrauch gets one of these, or a Leapers full size, or a Leapers Bug-Buster (like bullpups or Baikal IZH-60) as full size scopes look ridiculous on them, if they even fit.

Yes, it would be nice to put $700.00 scopes on all my rifles, but I dont have a spare $19,000 for that :). I only shoot paper indoors, at 30 or so yards maximum, bright and well lit, so while the higher end glass IS nice, dont need it.

No offence to any of the Hawke Sidewinder crowd or above..beautiful piece of kit and I wish I could have one on every rifle.

http://www.bsaoptics.com/scope.aspx?productID=75

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fishguy wrote:
Thanks for the replies guys. Bob I was thinking right along those lines so I must be on the right track.

Daryl, those are good scopes, my only concern would be they're both compact scopes and I may lose a little longer range ability with them? They may also look a little funny on the Condor given their shorter length?



The length of the scope means nothing as to it's ability to shoot longer ranges.

BTW - This is the scope on my Condor, (except for the 6-24Xmodel) not one of the shorter compacts -

https://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutd ... oduct_info

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