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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:01 pm 
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Going to Start Building a Precision Pellet Rifle (500FPS) for Under $300

Design a Custom Stock (Laminate Plywood)
Find a Working Break Barrel Setup (495-500fps)
Purchase Scope
Bipod Setup


Shooting for 1/2 inch groups at 50-75 yards or Very Close

Will post Pics of my Stock Drawing soon

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:08 pm 
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Scotian wrote:
Going to Start Building a Precision Pellet Rifle (500FPS) for Under $300

Design a Custom Stock (Laminate Plywood)
Find a Working Break Barrel Setup (495-500fps)
Purchase Scope
Bipod Setup


Shooting for 1/2 inch groups at 50-75 yards or Very Close

Will post Pics of my Stock Drawing soon


Very, VERY smart to avoid the word "accurate"...that probably would have lead to 10 pages of discussion LoL.....anyway...WALMRT CANADA..Ruger Airhawk (Umarex) with cheap scope....$99.00 with free shipping.....that could be your action right there.

The Airhawk, at least my couple, responds well to a lube tune and you can order a >500fps spring for it, then cut it down to get it to your liking if you want, say 500fps with heavy's...I dont know if it could do 1\2" at 50 though...my longest target range is only about 30 yards.

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 8:29 am 
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1/2" groupings at 50-75 yards with a non pal airgun? :rolleyes: well I think it's going to be tougher than you think.. a non pal airgun doesnt have much downrange energy.. wind will really affect your POI at longer ranges.. you're better off with a pal rated airgun... it'll be easier..

good luck though 8)


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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 10:44 am 
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Indoor Shooting No weather.... so that's a plus.

using a non pal air gun is the Challenge
proper Pellets (Gamo Blue Flame) 5.4 Gr (Higher Velocity) lighter pellet

50 Yards 150 feet Groupings as big as a dime (Challenge accepted)

Shooting bench Bipod etc.. it should all come together and work fairly well

I know it Prob wont do 1/2 inch but the fun is setting everything up Building it and seeing how close you can dial it in

i have been shooting for 25 years and to me this is not a hobby its a part of my life style

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 10:46 am 
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Haven't heard anything good about Gamo pellets. Probably going to need H&N or JSB if you want any accuracy. I wouldn't even bother with a bipod. Just get sand filled socks.


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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:10 am 
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Scotian wrote:

proper Pellets (Gamo Blue Flame) 5.4 Gr (Higher Velocity) lighter pellet
:shock:


Scotian wrote:
it should all come together and work fairly well
:?


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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:25 am 
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The blueFlames have worked great for me in my ruger airhawk
i have hit bottle caps at 50yrds
@25 yards i stay with in a 10mm group
Even my AF Talon does not have problems with that ammo over 1000fps

have alot of beeman wadcutters that are by far the best i have shot for accuracy
7.9gr i think???

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:32 am 
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Hmmm. Building? Are you not just looking for a non-pal break barrel action capable of shooting 1/2" groups at 50-75 yards indoor? Is there going to be much difference with a custom stock if you are shooting from a bench?

I guess you'll be sorting quite a few tins of pellets.

btw I'm all in for customization that adds function or increases accuracy.

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:51 am 
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I like your attitude. This thread will show you how to achieve fixed barrel accuracy with an inexpensive break barrel.
You'll need a pistol scope with a long eye relief or a longer rail for a rifle scope.
Good luck.

topic75474.html

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:52 am 
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ok a stock air rifle on a bench with scope

Custom Laminate Plywood with the same guts

what one is going to be more accurate?



for example
both are the same s400 rifles different stocks

what do you think will shoot better?
Stock or Custom?


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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 12:03 pm 
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Scotian wrote:
ok a stock air rifle on a bench with scope

Custom Laminate Plywood with the same guts

what one is going to be more accurate?



for example
both are the same s400 rifles different stocks

what do you think will shoot better?
Stock or Custom?


Without doing nothing to the action, or the trigger. Its going to shoot the same. Its like putting a body kit on a civic, its still going perform the same as stock. One could shoot a stock gun just as accurate, as a stock one in a different stock.


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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 12:16 pm 
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the precise Grip/Hold you have on the Rifle The more accurate your shot will be its how you Hold it Custom stock are Made just for that reason Control.. There is alot of videos comparing Custom stocks to Stock stocks

Not like adding a body kit at all Laminate stays true. as a hardwood stock will not due to humidity..... alot more rigid as well... stocks stocks they are Thrown out of a factory 10,000s at a time on cncs that are out of spec the alignment of the stock stocks are off right from the get go.


custom stock on a cnc machine with alot more tighter tolerances will be more accurate

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 12:24 pm 
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the precise Grip/Hold you have on the Rifle The more accurate your shot will be its how you Hold it Custom stock are Made just for that reason Control.. There is alot of videos comparing Custom stocks to Stock stocks

Not like adding a body kit at all Laminate stays true. as a hardwood stock will not due to humidity..... alot more rigid as well... stocks stocks they are Thrown out of a factory 10,000s at a time on cncs that are out of spec the alignment of the stock stocks are off right from the get go.


custom stock on a cnc machine with alot more tighter tolerances will be more accurate


Called muscle memory. If you been shooting 25 years you know that plays in a huge factor in accurate shooting. Ive seen people out shoot someone @ 800 M with a 1913 CG mauser, when they're up against alum chassi rem 700's. So I don't think the stock will automatically make a stock rifle better. Also its much better watching people get out shot by stockish rifles.

Sounds like you hyped yourself thinking it will.


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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 12:34 pm 
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any competition or precision rifles in the world that compete are not stock because they are not accurate enough



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPQ6CiW4g_c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kRK05NcAO8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5yiOlJdrG0

Everything that shoots Precision is custom

no hype, just facts Facts

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 12:37 pm 
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I will Guarantee that when my rifle is finished it will be alot more accurate then stock i will buy 2 Identical guns and build one up and leave another stock then i will go to the indoor range and video stock vs custom and anyone local to me on here will be more than welcome to come and see

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