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 Post subject: Benjamin .22 classic
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:27 am 
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Can anyone point me in the right direction for the upgraded trigger? I’ve reached the end of my road with the unpredictable stock trigger.
Modified it a bit, but it’s still unpredictable, without making it too unsafe/hair triggerish.
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 Post subject: Re: Benjamin .22 classic
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:02 am 
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The GTX II trigger is nice.

http://scopesandammo.com/storefront/pro ... more-p-242


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 Post subject: Re: Benjamin .22 classic
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:34 pm 
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Oh my holy pie, it's $50. Icche-mama. Lol.
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 Post subject: Re: Benjamin .22 classic
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:42 pm 
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Carpenter84 wrote:
Oh my holy pie, it's $50. Icche-mama. Lol.
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Well its a proven trigger and Charlie doesn't ship up to Canada. And kinda more safe then a bearing mod.

Someone might have a used one that they removed and not using. Put a wanted ad, in the wanted section.


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 Post subject: Re: Benjamin .22 classic
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:32 pm 
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The aftermarket trigs are sweet, just way too much $ imo. Optionally you can do "Mod 4" in my trigger guide. The trigger blade works the same as the aftermarket but since it covers how to mod the other parts in there it ends up being better. Best part is it's free, but you may need to buy or borrow whatever tools you don't have.
There are other mods in the guide too but imo 4 is easily the best.
There's also the washer/bearing mod which is super popular b/c it's super easy. Aside from not being as good as an aftermarket or Mod 4, it isn't as safe. It can be be anywhere from safe enough to flat out dangerous, and by that I mean it can fire all by itself w/o warning. You'll know it b/c it'll be a hair trigger, the fix is using a smaller washer/bearing, or grinding the groove in the sear deeper, or bending the sear up a bit.


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 Post subject: Re: Benjamin .22 classic
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:44 pm 
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Thanks guys.
I’ll have to refer back to mod 4, I can’t remember it. I printed the whole text out and put it in a binder.

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 Post subject: Re: Benjamin .22 classic
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:52 am 
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I performed the simple bearing mod on mine - install the correct size; it remains safe and works like a dream. I’m interested however in additional modifications - can we have a web link to them?

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 Post subject: Re: Benjamin .22 classic
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No web link, I just send it via email: chevota at hotmail it's ~9M w/ >100pix so I can't post it here
Basically the rest of the trig involves sanding/smoothing all the pins and surfaces they touch, and the same for where the sears contact each other. I also dry lube with tungsten disulfide, then a grease/tungsten mix. Why the tungsten? b/c I can, and it's super cool stuff ;)
I also sharpen the sears which I consider important since the oem are rounded. How important it really is I don't know, but I don't like the idea of a sear that can break differently depending on the lube or whatever misc factors. You don't see rounded sears on other guns for a reason. Sharpening also removes the let-off and allows the sears to return if balk fired. The smooth n lube usually fixes the balk issue but if you're on that rounded edge then it could hang. Round sears are another cost cutting corner by the mfg and an easy fix, so I do it...
Note; sharpening the sears shortens them, so if you do no other mods it works great since oem it too long by any standard, and you can grind them a bit further to shorten them however you think is perfect. Optionally you can bend the sear to adj pull dist. If you sharpen w/ Mod 4 then you need to try it and decide if it ends up too short. I consider it too short so I grind on the groove in the lower sear until I like it. No point in having two stages if #1 is barely there. The pix in the guide will make more sense of it. If the washer/bearing mod was done then you'll be forced to mod it or lose the washer, or use a really small washer. I heard the little rollers off a bicycle chain will fit and those are pretty small OD, but I think I'd just bend the sear. You can buy sears for it if you want, which are actually the NP2 sears and need to be modded a bit first. Those are ~$10CA ea. Ouch... The correct oem B18 sears are only available via a whole trig assy which should be ~$20CA. Fyi if anyone wants to tinker or somehow screws up.
Mod 4 can be as nice as any bearing mod, just much safer. The more of a hair trigger you like the safer in comparo it is. My only real issue with the washer is it's always less safe, and sketchy/unsafe when short, which is how I like it. w/ Mod 4 I get the short pull yet it's safer than any washer mod. Mod 4 doesn't hurt anything so if you change your mind you simply back the screw out a few turns and it's oem again. Not that anyone has ever done that... So w/ nothing to lose I encourage everyone to at least try to make it happen.


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