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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:07 pm 
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Ok, so i got a pellet stuck in my gun, its a crosman 1322. I used a copper wire to remove it, probably not the best idea to use metal, because im worried now i damaged the rifling. mabie its just me, but the farther shots (20-25 yrds) seem to spread more. Then again, i haven't shot it in awhile.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:40 pm 
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I believe a copper wire pushing out a stuck pellet should not make damage to the bore...

How's the grouping before and after?

20 to 25 yard nice grouping looks not that easy for a 1322 although 1322 and 2240 are very accurate air guns no doubt. But shooting targets at this distance will related to many conditions not all the barrel....

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:44 pm 
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YepYep wrote:
I believe a copper wire pushing out a stuck pellet should not make damage to the bore...

How's the grouping before and after?

20 to 25 yard nice grouping looks not that easy for a 1322 although 1322 and 2240 are very accurate air guns no doubt. But shooting targets at this distance will related to many conditions not all the barrel....

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like i said its been awhile since i tested it at range. getting like 3/4" groups from a distance, 10ish yards isnt so bad. I got a x4 scope though.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:23 pm 
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It's hard to tell 3/4" groups good or bad... How far did you shoot it? 20m ( fair ) or 10m ( not very good)

And if the POI just 'dropped' to make the bad grouping or it's just 'spreaded' around the bullseye?

1322 is multi pump, so for longer distance, due to the not very consistent air pressure, the POI will change...

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:27 pm 
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No, copper should not damage rifling. Gotta realize alot of firearms calibers are copper jacketed or plated. With people put thousands of rounds thru barrels. Been so for 100s of years.

One copper wire down a barrel wont hurt nothing.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:38 pm 
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We used to shoot steel darts and BB's through our .177's and my old Telly from the 60's still shoots pellets better than I can see.Used to put a small patch of Kleenex in the breech then a BB so it wouldn't roll out if you were shooting downhill.Relaxed a few rabbits with headshots and that one.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:46 pm 
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leadslinger wrote:
No, copper should not damage rifling. Gotta realize alot of firearms calibers are copper jacketed or plated. With people put thousands of rounds thru barrels. Been so for 100s of years.

One copper wire down a barrel wont hurt nothing.


probably should have mentioned it was hardened copper wire, if that makes a difference.
or its just really stiff, compared to regular copper.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:52 pm 
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But out barrel is steel....

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Sorry for the typo.... our.... Not 'out'...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:04 pm 
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I agree with the guys, copper wont hurt your barrel a bit, I admit i had to go back and read to see what gun you had because some air rifles I have are barreled with a brass/bronze rifled liner....that would make a difference, but unless you have swapped your barrel to one that is lined with brass/bronze you're 100% fine

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YepYep wrote:
But out barrel is steel....

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So is every firearm barrel made for last 200+ years. Copper wont effect a crosman barrel.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:26 pm 
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What kind of copper was this hardened copper wire? Just electrical wire?

Copper, hardened or annealed is probably the best material you could have used. Copper is non-marring in any state against mild, or the carbon steels. It is the go-to material to use on the lathe chucks jaws, or vise jaws, against materials you don't want to mar.

Unless you managed to compress the copper inside the barrel so much so that it expanded the barrel, you should be fine. If worried, clean the barrel out with a brass brush attachment. If the barrel hasn't been cleaned in some time, it may have disturbed any lead or dirt build up causing the pellet to fit differently.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:28 pm 
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Ausername wrote:
leadslinger wrote:
No, copper should not damage rifling. Gotta realize alot of firearms calibers are copper jacketed or plated. With people put thousands of rounds thru barrels. Been so for 100s of years.

One copper wire down a barrel wont hurt nothing.


probably should have mentioned it was hardened copper wire, if that makes a difference.
or its just really stiff, compared to regular copper.


Still wont make a difference. Talking about that 14/2 ground wire?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:32 pm 
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Nope, a ground wire won't hurt it. Actually, a smart implement to have used. I wouldn't have thought of that. I would have turned to something more rigid and likely have done damage. Which is kind of shameful cause along with being a hobby machinist I used to be a residential elechicken for many years...

I'll have to keep the wire idea in mind if I come across a similar issue.

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I use the long bamboo sticks which ppl used in the garden to support the plants, like tomato etc....

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