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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:36 am 
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Checked everywhere yesterday about getting it filled and no one does HPA or even CO2 around here. Want to fill with HPA for a bulk fill for a full power QB78S unmodified bench gun. The end game is setting it up for Nitrogen. Going to scale back from a bigger tank to a 13ci-3000psi and 250 pumps from empty to fill according to Utube video.. May get a PCP in the future so a hand pump is in the cards anyways.


How many people pump HPA tanks with a hand pump? Should I go a bigger tank as I first planned or scale back to the 13ci?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:45 am 
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Well I hand pumped my Kral puncher and that had a 330 CC tube. And a 13CI is 213 CC.

Mainly I just kept it topped up, never really let it drop past like 1200.. When I had a 13CI, I remember started to pump. Made a pump aid for it..Now that I'm back into PCPs and I sold my compressor. Started to use my handpump again. And need to make a new pump aid.

Just a lever on a pivot to provide leverage..


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:58 am 
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Yes I plan to keep topping it up every shoot. Not uncommon to put 200 pellet down range in one day. New gun is amazing compared to my springers. All I can say is "WOW" when I shoot it. I thought it would be a lot louder than it is taking 2 powerlets. I have springers that make more noise. :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:14 am 
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I hand pump my 48 cu in tanks from time to time. Depending on what pressure you are aiming for it can be an excessive workout and take a few days, but it can be done. At Bronsons in town here they charge $7 for a 3000 psi fill and I never get 3000, more like 2700-2800psi. Pumping a 13 ci in tank to 3000 psi could be done in a few hrs. Pump 10 min, rest for 15 min. etc.

So to be clear, I recommend you scale back to 13 ci if you intend to hand pump only.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:21 am 
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Sounds you don't need any other exercise if you got a tank to fill in the house ~ [emoji38]

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:48 am 
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YepYep wrote:
Sounds you don't need any other exercise if you got a tank to fill in the house ~ [emoji38]

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Yes but I want to be able to monitor pressure. Annoys me when shooting a great card then pressure goes down with caplets, shot go low and ruins card. :lol: Nobody sees them but still annoys me. :roll: Still want to retain being able to run caplets if the gun ever sees the outdoors. :)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:57 am 
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If pcp is in your future consider a heng yong compressor. I think wes has a few good price happy options. I filled my 13ci 3000psi tank from near empty in ~45 seconds. Probably less. Nothing wrong with hand pumps. Makes you strong. :D

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:09 am 
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I'd recommend the 13ci tank as well for hand pumping, that's enough of a work out, for me anyway, and if you are just topping off it's not so bad. I have a 48ci 4500psi tank, and I've only hand pumped it a couple times, and never to 4500psi. Too much work! 13ci tank is about right, and only 3000psi fill, so even better =).



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:43 am 
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wesb2007 wrote:
I'd recommend the 13ci tank as well for hand pumping, that's enough of a work out, for me anyway, and if you are just topping off it's not so bad. I have a 48ci 4500psi tank, and I've only hand pumped it a couple times, and never to 4500psi. Too much work! 13ci tank is about right, and only 3000psi fill, so even better =).



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13ci 850psi on Amazon does not have good reviews. Canada Shooting Supply has 1100psi. May have to go a little higher output than I want. Then your pump, just waiting for more fun money. Spent more than I was planning this month. Got to keep some beer money! :lol:

Seen Dukemeister tanks in trading post but no fun money to even negotiate right now. :(


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:44 pm 
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Badland paintball has sometime sales on their refurbished 13CI HPA tanks. 850 PSI though.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:57 pm 
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leadslinger wrote:
Badland paintball has sometime sales on their refurbished 13CI HPA tanks. 850 PSI though.

I want a 850psi tank. But with shipping the price is more than Amazon. Got bulk fill connector for gun but waiting till 4th to the 17th of February for my hose connector so I have some time to get tank and pump. Can't shoot it now anyways till snow is off my roof. :( Doing my tool room rifles now. CHEERS!


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:19 pm 
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I rent a 34 cubic yard nitrogen tank from Prax-aire in town.
A full tank, (200 pounds) is $100.00 + $24.00 I think.
The rental totals $135.35 per year.
This is cheaper than having the paint ball shop fill my tanks.
They tried to charge me $30.00 for 60 cu in. scuba tank to 2,900psi
The year before, I attempted to get the little 4500psi tank filled and
they put in only 3,800psi, but charged for a fill - $25.00 for that little
guppy-sized tank.

I went straight to Prax-aire for the rental and am happy. I can fill my
4500 psi, 97cu in tanks a few times to filled up, then they actually work
for a long time down under 3,000psi. It's been 1 1/2 years since I got the
last nitrogen tank and it still fills my 97cu in tank to 2,800psi. I;'ve done a
LOT of PCP shooting with it. The big tank is cabled, standing up in a corner
of my shop, out of the way and secure, can't fall over.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:11 pm 
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Daryl wrote:
I rent a 34 cubic yard nitrogen tank from Prax-aire in town.
A full tank, (200 pounds) is $100.00 + $24.00 I think.
The rental totals $135.35 per year.
This is cheaper than having the paint ball shop fill my tanks.
They tried to charge me $30.00 for 60 cu in. scuba tank to 2,900psi
The year before, I attempted to get the little 4500psi tank filled and
they put in only 3,800psi, but charged for a fill - $25.00 for that little
guppy-sized tank.

I went straight to Prax-aire for the rental and am happy. I can fill my
4500 psi, 97cu in tanks a few times to filled up, then they actually work
for a long time down under 3,000psi. It's been 1 1/2 years since I got the
last nitrogen tank and it still fills my 97cu in tank to 2,800psi. I;'ve done a
LOT of PCP shooting with it. The big tank is cabled, standing up in a corner
of my shop, out of the way and secure, can't fall over.


Thanks. I own a Gas Company and own my own Nitrogen tanks so no rental involved. That's why first post if you read it says my end game is nitrogen. CHEERS!


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:22 pm 
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I shoot a lot and handpump everything. A 13/3000psi tank isn't that bad. The power/efficiency of the airgun matters more than the size of the tank.

I don't pump more than about 35 strokes at a time to keep the pump from overheating. The pump overheats before I do.

I've got a 20fpe bottled QB78, pumping never keeps me from shooting.

If you go with an 850psi tank (more than enough for light target shooting) you'll want to lighten the hammer spring by a couple of coils.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:26 pm 
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987654321 wrote:
I shoot a lot and handpump everything. A 13/3000psi tank isn't that bad. The power/efficiency of the airgun matters more than the size of the tank.

I don't pump more than about 35 strokes at a time to keep the pump from overheating. The pump overheats before I do.

I've got a 20fpe bottled QB78, pumping never keeps me from shooting.

If you go with an 850psi tank (more than enough for light target shooting) you'll want to lighten the hammer spring by a couple of coils.

Thank you. Yes I only shoot in the house with it. What kinda speed you get with your 20 fpe?


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