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 Post subject: Hatsan pellet testing.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:40 am 
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First air rifle I bought as an adult was a .177 Hatsan 135S from Deals Store (Division of KW Surplus). It has shot lights out from day one. Shoots so good in fact that it is one gun I felt it never needed any tuning at all over the past two years since I bought it. Got it originally and chronograph tests had it shooting 505FPS with 7.4gn wadcutters. In beginning I thought fine maybe dieseling a little being new. Two years later I chronograph it again yesterday and still shooting 505FPS with same pellets. Was bought as a sub 500 air rifle. Surprises me that it never lost any speed at all over two years of shooting. Wonder what GN pellets Hatsan uses to rate air rifles? I am under in foot pounds at 4.19. Guess after hockey this morning I should do more testing in a 20 shot string to double check. Hate to put my powder burners at risk over something silly as cutting it that close to the edge over to lock or not. Guess this is a prime example why everyone should own a chronograph. CHEERS!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:34 am 
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The laws for fps/fpe are not clear......a stock Canadian 1322 shoots at 460 fps out of the box with a 14.3
The same gun shoots a lead rws 11.9 grain at over 500 fps....which puts it over the limit on both counts...???
Like you mentioned your gun is still below the fpe threshold so I wouldn't worry...as far as I can tell a gun has to be in excess of BOTH limits....of course...without knowing the actual weight of pellets used for testing.....who knows???

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:58 am 
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I want a 2240 or 1322 but I won't buy one until this fps stuff is a lot more definite.There are a few videos on YouTube with stock Canadian guns shooting over fps and fpe limits with lighter pellets but not with the 14.3 grain.But if its over with a 11.9 grain then its over I suppose. :?:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:29 pm 
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wheeliehd wrote:
First air rifle I bought as an adult was a .177 Hatsan 135S from Deals Store (Division of KW Surplus). It has shot lights out from day one. Shoots so good in fact that it is one gun I felt it never needed any tuning at all over the past two years since I bought it. Got it originally and chronograph tests had it shooting 505FPS with 7.4gn wadcutters. In beginning I thought fine maybe dieseling a little being new. Two years later I chronograph it again yesterday and still shooting 505FPS with same pellets. Was bought as a sub 500 air rifle. Surprises me that it never lost any speed at all over two years of shooting. Wonder what GN pellets Hatsan uses to rate air rifles? I am under in foot pounds at 4.19. Guess after hockey this morning I should do more testing in a 20 shot string to double check. Hate to put my powder burners at risk over something silly as cutting it that close to the edge over to lock or not. Guess this is a prime example why everyone should own a chronograph. CHEERS!


You wouldn't be putting anything at risk. Since you hold a valid PAL. It be different if you didn't have a PAL and gloating that you got a 600 FPS air rifle. Police have no way of testing. It would have to be shipped all the way to the firearm LAB. And I highly doubt that they going to do that for 5 FPS over.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:35 pm 
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I have found most of my guns are more accurate with the heavier pellets, 14.34gr. Crossman HP's, (the Piranah don't shoot as well) in .22's and 10.5's in .177
then 12 and 13gr. JSB's in .177, then to best shooting in .22 to the 19.09 and 21.3gr. H&N's.
I see no reason for shooting pellets that are so light as to cause worry or concern. If your pellets are running under 500fps - great.
I suspect that rifle shooting 505fps with 7.4gr. will be well under with 8.0 or 8.2's. Testing is necessary.
I personally would not be in possession of pellets that made the gun illegal for you to carry or have.
Obtaining your P.A.L. would certainly remove ALL worry or concern.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:49 pm 
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Daryl wrote:
I have found most of my guns are more accurate with the heavier pellets, 14.34gr. Crossman HP's, (the Piranah don't shoot as well) in .22's and 10.5's in .177
then 12 and 13gr. JSB's in .177, then to best shooting in .22 to the 19.09 and 21.3gr. H&N's.
I see no reason for shooting pellets that are so light as to cause worry or concern. If your pellets are running under 500fps - great.
I suspect that rifle shooting 505fps with 7.4gr. will be well under with 8.0 or 8.2's. Testing is necessary.
I personally would not be in possession of pellets that made the gun illegal for you to carry or have.
Obtaining your P.A.L. would certainly remove ALL worry or concern.

Not to trigger lock or not. I will keep the ridding of pellets and Pal in mind. Thank you! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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