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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:39 pm 
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Why isn't this cool thing sold here? It's under the FPS and energy limits.
It would fit quite well with my DPMS and Hellboy (actually the mag is the exact same thing as the Hellboy once the curved cover is removed).
I want that thing BAD!!!

https://youtu.be/YIDck1ornbk

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:47 pm 
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Well! The 10 meter accuracy grouping just surprisingly good! And the all wood just makes this is a VERY GREAT replica atvall means!

I want it too ~~

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DocGadget wrote:
Why isn't this cool thing sold here? It's under the FPS and energy limits.
It would fit quite well with my DPMS and Hellboy (actually the mag is the exact same thing as the Hellboy once the curved cover is removed).
I want that thing BAD!!!

https://youtu.be/YIDck1ornbk


I think the RCMP determined that they were made from real AK's


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:06 pm 
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YepYep wrote:
Well! The 10 meter accuracy grouping just surprisingly good! And the all wood just makes this is a VERY GREAT replica atvall means!

I want it too ~~

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Impressive isn't it!
But I just did the conversion and it's quite expensive at 280£ :shock: not sure I'm still interested at 500$!!!

https://www.drapers-airguns.co.uk/index.php/guns/new-air-guns/air-rifles-new/cybergun-ak47-4-5mm-bb.html

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm 
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leadslinger wrote:
I think the RCMP determined that they were made from real AK's


Without having one in hand it's hard to argue with that but like I said the mag internals are the same as the Hellraiser Hellboy so I'd be really surprised if it contained parts from real AK parts. It's made by Cybergun, not some recycled parts from Russia like they did with the Makarovs a few years ago.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:33 pm 
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No Thanks. it does nothing for me.
But if it's your cup of tea well I'm sure you can find
it somewhere soon.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:03 pm 
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The RCMP's firearms Division feel it looks too much like the real gun, therefore they have said it uses AK parts
to justify their prevention of it coming into Canada. This is not the first time this very thing has happened.
The is also not the first gun which by appearance alone, has frightened the poor boys or girls into declaring a gun prohibited.
It will not be the last. Past judgements were just a warm up. Now, they will be feeling out the constraints, if any, of their new-to-come powers.
They are still frightened by bull pups, blow pipes, silencers, brass knuckles, all handguns and nun-chucks, however, Sword collections are OK, so far.
Don't leave home without it! LOL

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:05 pm 
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And because the AK-47 and other AK ' family' guns are classified as a prohibited weapon status in Canada.
Consequently I would doubt that we will ever see these in Canada. If you can find one available from 'across the Border'...I would also doubt it would be allowed entry into Canada even if it was a CO2 airgun under 500fps shooting BB's.
Andy's comment and warning to his fellow Brit's to not brandish this airgun out in the public because it is so 'realistic' to the AK-47 it replicates it could be mistaken for the real 'weapon' associated with terrorists and the like.
I do admit it is a very appealing airgun for authenticity sake.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:07 pm 
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Yes, I think the RCMP came down hard on the airgun dealers in 2011, for selling this airgun or something similar.

They were supposedly made out of surplus parts for real AK47's

See Michael Kaye's story:

https://www.replicaairguns.com/posts/20 ... -past.html

If anyone finds a way to get a full auto version into Canada, it might be real interesting. Many might consider the purchase, just a couple of issues to get around.
1) At $500 each they might not sell a lot.
2) 18 shot mag might not be much for full auto. You would be reloading a lot.

Any dealers want to comment about carrying them? I think some of the dealers currently sell Cybergun products.

Or do you think Crosman might come out with a more reliable version of their AK Comrade, with a similar platform to the DPMS?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:36 pm 
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For those that don't remember the Crosman Comrade AK here is a link:

https://www.crosman.com/comrade-ak

I think AGS was clearing them out for less than $80 a couple of years ago.

Crosman sold them for many years. Both a 600 fps model and a >500 fps model for Canada.

I think it had mixed reviews. I passed on it and bought an Uzi BB gun for about $30 more. Still happy with the Uzi.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:55 am 
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DocGadget wrote:
leadslinger wrote:
I think the RCMP determined that they were made from real AK's


Without having one in hand it's hard to argue with that but like I said the mag internals are the same as the Hellraiser Hellboy so I'd be really surprised if it contained parts from real AK parts. It's made by Cybergun, not some recycled parts from Russia like they did with the Makarovs a few years ago.


Just because mag internals doesn't mean squat. AR15 isn't prohib in Canada. But the AK is. Stupid as I know.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/replica- ... -1.1050388

The Cybergun is a variant of the Yunker-3

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2005/10 ... ly-missed/

Which in Canada is a Prohibited gun.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:58 am 
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For those that don't remember the Crosman Comrade AK here is a link:

https://www.crosman.com/comrade-ak

I think AGS was clearing them out for less than $80 a couple of years ago.

Crosman sold them for many years. Both a 600 fps model and a >500 fps model for Canada.

I think it had mixed reviews. I passed on it and bought an Uzi BB gun for about $30 more. Still happy with the Uzi.


The problem is the Yunker-3 or the Cyber Gun was made from real AK parts, in the same factory that makes AKs.. Comrade just a plastic POS.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:57 am 
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not sure what the fuss is about
they make them for paintball and airsoft so whats the deference.... :?
not sure why they wouldn't allow the BB version
https://www.torontoairsoft.com/AK-Series_c_251.html
https://www.torontoairsoft.com/CYMA-AK4 ... _2417.html

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I agree with Ace, the whole matter of ratings and prohibitive airguns is completely out of touch from reality. And doesn't even follow the law, or the spirit of the law.

Why is the AK47 illegal, when other replicas are OK.

For example the Uzi is a very close replica of the real thing, and some of the parts (esp. the stamped metal parts) are very similar to the real thing. The main difference may be that it is not made in the same factory as real firearms, and surplus gun parts are not used to make it.

As previously noted the airsoft version looks similar to the BB version that is banned. Does it make it OK just because it has a removable orange tip?

The whole legislation is poorly written, and interpreted even worse by the RCMP.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:10 pm 
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if you look at the CYMA AKM Full Metal...there is no orange tip
as a matter of fact a couple years ago i was in a shop and picked
one of these up just to see and feel if it was like the real deal and i was quite surprised.... :shock: 8)
also none of the replicas at the time had any orange or red plastic barrel tip
i'm not sure if they have changed anything since then but if they haven't
then i'd say there darn close to the real deal... :wink:

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