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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:27 am 
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Wonder if anyone can help?
I wish to take an old Webley Premier .22 pistol from the UK to Norway and need to prove that the muzzle velocity is less than 6ft.lb. Does anyone know of a manufacturer's specification sheet that I could use? Regards Bazer.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:20 am 
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Know anyone with a Chronograph?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:35 am 
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Look under the gun in front of the trigger. There might be a pentagon with the letter "F", this symbol means the guns is less than 7.5 joules or 5.5 ft/lbs.


I found a catalogue advertising the fps but it is hard to read. Looks like 315 in .177 and 350 in .22
I also found the manual.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:45 am 
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The Tempest have the F mark behind the front sight, check there too.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:22 am 
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As far as I know, these pistols were rated at 350 fps for the .177 model, and 310 fps for the .22 model. It's quite hard finding original datas for these fine pistols since they've been out of production for so long, I haven't been able to find any original print of the owner's manual (except on Ebay) on the web, so it may be hard to actually give a solid, ''official'' reference for Webley's ratings. However, if the pistol has the ''F'' in the pentagon, it means it's rated at 7.5 joules or less, that would be an ''official'' rating.

As leadslinger suggested, maybe you'd be better off finding someone with a Chony and test your pistol in the presence of a reliable witness, to make it somewhat ''official'', and print the datas with both yours and the witness' signatures, as a ''formal declaration'' of some sort :?: .

Anyways, good luck in your venture, and welcome to the CAF!


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:31 am 
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Many thanks for being such a massive help and being so welcoming.
Bazer


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:58 pm 
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Book for all the Premier/Senior derivates was 420 fps in .177 and 330 fps in .22 Webleys own original adverts ...I once saw 416 fps for the Mk1 in Hillers Air pistols.
I can testify that these figures are an accurate low avg.
Slightly better sealed Tempests, or fettled, well lubed examples of the above could see the .177 just exceed 450 fps..but not much more before the gun becomes a bit cranky..
You can trust these figures ..


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:43 pm 
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Unless you're putting nitro-methane in it for dieseling, it's <6ftlbs... Likely it's ~3ftlbs if it's working right. I think the better question would be to prove what pistol can break 6ftlbs since few can, but I know how governments work; guilty until proven innocent....
Reminds me of my gov trying to fine me for several cars I sold long ago. They actually said to me, in writing; "prove you no longer have it" (one threatening letter per car). How the F do you prove that? If you cannot prove it you have to pay the fine or face jail time. It's a scam by our local gov to extort $ from us. There's a reason we're broke but it's not PC to say why, so nobody talks about the 800lb gorilla and instead they pay the fines and taxes, but that's another story.
In your case I guess you'd need to produce the orig box, a statement from the mfg, or possibly pay to have it tested. Gawd that sux, sorry....


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Just.a similar case someone in BC, and their car parked on the street in front of their house... And all 4 wheels were stolen in the night. Then in the next morning after they called the police and insurance and waiting for the tow truck, the car was ticketed by the city as it parked on the street at the time not allowed....

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