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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:17 pm 
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Another newbie question.

I know that the guys at AGS will answer this question when I ask them, but I'll ask the CAF gang first. When I purchase the Air Arms TX200, should I clean the bore before running any pellets through it?

I don't want to open the whole "clean or don't clean" regular maintenance debate, or the "how to clean" heated debate. I'm just wondering about the initial purchase of an AA gun. Clean the bore once and you're good to go with the breaking period, or just start firing as is?

I've read that some guns from overseas can be coated with anti corrosion lube that isn't necessarily the best to leave on the gun or in the bore. I'm not sure what AA does to their bores prior to international shipping.

I have read the AA User's Handbook and it doesn't mention anything about cleaning the bore on a new gun.

Thoughts or guidance is always appreciated.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:46 pm 
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Joatmon66 wrote:
Another newbie question.

,, should I clean the bore before running any pellets through it?

If it was me, I would just shoot it straight out of the box, then put it back in the box and take some pictures to post, then think about running a few patches through the bore, mounting a scope, doing some chrony tests and pellet testing. Get yourself a weed wacker pull through set up, some goo gone, and clean once, clean early, and whenever you feel like it after. :drinkers:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:52 pm 
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Always clean the bore of a new gun. You don't know what might be hiding in there from dust, dirt, dead bugs, preservative oil/grease. You don't need to go hard and scrub it with cleaners etc, just run a patch through the barrel. If it comes out clean you are good to go. If there is something coating it then run a few more patches. It is quite normal for there to be some kind of anti rust thing on/in new guns.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:31 pm 
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Never owned an AA before, but I still remember when I opened the box of my new HW45 pistol, I found the corner of the inner plastic bag was filled with the oil from the muzzle of the gun...

But I must say, normally, I will do what Duke do and just shoot some shots and 'WooW!!', then take pictures, post, and start cleaning.... [emoji38]

As the TX200 is not a break barrel, so a snake type of cleaning setup is a must... We always push / pull through the cleaning patch from the breech to the muzzle, following the same direction that the pellet goes... So for a underlever, you usually can't push through the cleaning pellet but have to pull it through using a snake...

And I won't do as the labels on the cleaning pellets says 'load and shoot', especially on a high power springer. If you are lazy, and want to clean it by shooting, ppl will suggest you load the cleaning pellet first then load a pellet behind it, and shoot these two stuff together... Dry fire (or say firing without a proper load in the barrel, too light or too heavy a pellet for your gun's power is NOT a 'proper load' here.) a springer will damage the main spring and shorten its life.

I will just use a cleaning pellet which soaked with pellgunoil or the W30-ND oil which proved will never do harm to the metal and barrels and following some other cleaning pellets until you see no dirt, no oil...

I believe the TX200 will just use the top quality barrel, so no need to worry about things like rusting, too soft steel material etc... It will just be lasting.... Cleanup the protective oil and lube will be just enough. And you don't need to clean it again in some years until you just shoot too much with it... Or you just want to clean it~ [emoji38]

Happy photo shooting and cleaning ~

It looks the AGS doesn't have the cleaning pellet in the moment. But you can find it anywhere. For example our forum store carries the good cleaning pellets I am using too...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:40 pm 
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I made myself a cleaning snake using the weed wacker line too.... However as it's not that easy to use, I prefer push through with a bamboo garden stick more often... Image

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:48 pm 
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I have three TX200 and I simply pull dry patches through until they come out clean or close enough to it. That's it. I use the crown saver type pull through and patches that are about an inch and a half square. I pull the patch through once, then turn it inside out and pull it again. Usually the first pull through gives the most information on how dirty the barrel is.

I, personally , will never use a shoot through patch on my guns.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:05 pm 
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Thanks guys for the great guidance.

I have the goo gone, patches, and weed whacker line ready to go. When I pick up the rifle, I thought I'd pick up a can of Ballistol as a lot of people seem to swear by it for the bore and the rest of the external metal parts.

As suggested, I'll run a couple of patches through with a little goo gone and if all goes well, there won't need to be any more cleaning required. I can then run a patch through with some Ballistol and call it good for the initial cleaning. With the amount of shooting I see me doing before retirement (i.e. not very much) I can't see me needing to clean the bore again for a long time.

The AA Users Handbook actually references shooting a cleaning pellet to clean the bore just as long as you have a real pellet in there to push the felt pellet through. They specifically warn against shooting just the felt pellet as there's not enough resistance and you could damage the spring. I have no intention at all of using this method. I'd much rather clean the bore in a more controlled manner unless everyone starts saying that shooting felt pellets is the best and only way to do it properly. At this point in time, it seems like most of the experienced people view this method as not overly effective.

I have read some reviews and watched some videos of crown saver cleaning kit and it's highly recommended by many. If I get into serious shooting later on that requires regular cleaning, I'll look into picking up a kit.

I'm getting it loud and clear that there are expectations of me to post photos of the new gun once I've got my greasy little mitts on it. I'll be sure to live up to those expectations. :-)

Cheers.


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