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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:31 pm 
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Winter is coming and I can get bored easy :D (60 yo, mechanical designer and consultant in new products developments). My archery Field shooting, cyclecross and gravel biking season is slowly over, I would need some entertainment in my men's cave.
Last two winters I had a nice project gun the QB78 I rebuilt several times thanks to all forum members, not much left there to improve.

Looking now for a new PCP gun, with aftermarket parts or cross mixing parts widely available.
- I would prefer multi shot magazines, so I can keep the reading glasses in my pocket.
- for longer ranges a 25 cal and adjustable power could become handy.
- picatiny rail, I have 3 nice crossbow scopes in my drawers.
- adjustable stock, synthetic is easier to modify, I don't know working with wood.

The Kral came to my mind but open for suggestions, if I can get one upscaled but second hand even better. I have PAL.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:11 pm 
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Only problem with the Kral is, It's doesn't got a picatiny rail. I had a Kral puncher in 177, the rail didn't fit weaver rings. But the stock does have a weaver rail on the syn stock, for a bipod. But it's super easy to swap out scope rings.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:03 am 
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leadslinger wrote:
...I had a Kral puncher in 177...


Which model was that? and What was you didn't like with a Puncher?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:03 am 
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bigHUN wrote:
Winter is coming and I can get bored easy :D (60 yo, mechanical designer and consultant in new products developments). My archery Field shooting, cyclecross and gravel biking season is slowly over, I would need some entertainment in my men's cave.
Last two winters I had a nice project gun the QB78 I rebuilt several times thanks to all forum members, not much left there to improve.

Looking now for a new PCP gun, with aftermarket parts or cross mixing parts widely available.
- I would prefer multi shot magazines, so I can keep the reading glasses in my pocket.
- for longer ranges a 25 cal and adjustable power could become handy.
- picatiny rail, I have 3 nice crossbow scopes in my drawers.
- adjustable stock, synthetic is easier to modify, I don't know working with wood.

The Kral came to my mind but open for suggestions, if I can get one upscaled but second hand even better. I have PAL.


I have one posted in the for sale section. This one is the synthetic version with adjustable cheek piece. I have some upgrades too if you want them but as is, the Kral gets about 40 good shots in cal 25 giving 830 fps with the 25gn jsb's.

Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:10 pm 
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apitagan wrote:
I have one posted in the for sale section. This one is the synthetic version with adjustable cheek piece. I have some upgrades too if you want them but as is, the Kral gets about 40 good shots in cal 25 giving 830 fps with the 25gn jsb's.

A


I have no pump so that would offset my budget again, but I have couple airtanks filling up at my corner scuba shop for $40/year subscription. Also Edmonton is a bit far away...


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:38 pm 
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Primarily interested for Kral's, if I could see/touch these and have some questions to a sales person.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:58 pm 
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I just bought a Puncher Jumbo in .25. Shoots about 750fps. Super lightweight. The stock is very nice. The only thing I don’t like about it, is the quick disconnect. Kral has their own foster type fitting that is larger than the ones we normally use.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:16 pm 
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bigHUN wrote:
leadslinger wrote:
...I had a Kral puncher in 177...


Which model was that? and What was you didn't like with a Puncher?


Sorry the Puncher Mega, Marine with Walnut stock. The marine finish was more of a paint and was blemishes on the barrel. The stock is huge. Coming from firearms, it was like holding a bench rest rifle. I originally mounted a 1" tube, 40mm scope and I could run med rings, But when I switched to a 30mm tube, 50mm Objective scope, I had to run high rings, and then ran out of elevation, so had to go with FX no limit rings and the cheek weld suffered. Plus it was close to a 11lb rifle.

I really wished I just got the Black, with Syn stock, Because it has the adjustable cheek rest. Then also the rail for the wood stock, really damages the stock.

The Kral Puncher NP-03 PCP Carbine kinda looks nice.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:07 pm 
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leadslinger wrote:
Puncher Mega, Marine with Walnut stock...Coming from firearms, it was like holding a bench rest rifle...The Kral Puncher NP-03 PCP Carbine kinda looks nice.


When I started moding the QB78 (or whatever its called) soon I realized that the scope position doesn't fit to my posture, the stock is one of the biggest problem with accuracy, and to rebuild the hight-distance-lean it is easier just to take a piece of fresh new 2x4 and just rebuild. Fortunately I had a synt stock on my QB but stil I had a lot of hours tinkering with a 50 mm scope, now finally is kind a OK for handling.

For this same reason I am guessing the synt stock more of a tactical style is a best friendly option.
I would really like to visit a store to see these Kral rifles. Canadashootingsupply is I believe an online store only. I am in Aurora North of GTA but I don't see these anywhere close at all.

That Kral Puncher NP-03 PCP Carbine 750 fps vs all the others 950 fps, what may be a difference in internals for that big gap. I don't need the highest speed, my QB can give me 950'ish (at 1500 psi) but I lower it to 770 fps where is the most accurate with my heavy pellets. So the power adjustment is also a good thing if we want to play with distances.

What about that Kral Puncher One? I see it is synt and the but is extending, but no fps on it anywhere


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:20 pm 
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bigHUN wrote:
leadslinger wrote:
Puncher Mega, Marine with Walnut stock...Coming from firearms, it was like holding a bench rest rifle...The Kral Puncher NP-03 PCP Carbine kinda looks nice.


When I started moding the QB78 (or whatever its called) soon I realized that the scope position doesn't fit to my posture, the stock is one of the biggest problem with accuracy, and to rebuild the hight-distance-lean it is easier just to take a piece of fresh new 2x4 and just rebuild. Fortunately I had a synt stock on my QB but stil I had a lot of hours tinkering with a 50 mm scope, now finally is kind a OK for handling.

For this same reason I am guessing the synt stock more of a tactical style is a best friendly option.
I would really like to visit a store to see these Kral rifles. Canadashootingsupply is I believe an online store only. I am in Aurora North of GTA but I don't see these anywhere close at all.

That Kral Puncher NP-03 PCP Carbine 750 fps vs all the others 950 fps, what may be a difference in internals for that big gap. I don't need the highest speed, my QB can give me 950'ish (at 1500 psi) but I lower it to 770 fps where is the most accurate with my heavy pellets. So the power adjustment is also a good thing if we want to play with distances.


Yes Raman doesn't have a store front, but email him, he may work something out. Hes a good person to deal with. Who I got mine from. But if you want to shoot longer range you, may want a bit more FPS. Good thing about the KRALs is the power wheel. On my 177, I could shoot from 700, to 1100 FPS just turning the dial. Without taking apart the gun, It was on the side of the gun. Just wish there was more positive lock between the settings. I just like the NP-03 style a bit more.. Just because my Puncher Mega, I didn't have the best grip, and cheek rest.

Note how high the scope is.

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Can see the power wheel under the lever.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:43 pm 
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leadslinger wrote:
....Who I got mine from. But if you want to shoot longer range you, may want a bit more FPS. Good thing about the KRALs is the power wheel. On my 177, I could shoot from 700, to 1100 FPS just turning the dial. Without taking apart the gun, It was on the side of the gun. Just wish there was more positive lock between the settings. I just like the NP-03 style a bit more..


I got my QB from there as well 2-3 years ago. I will email him.
I am gravel biking and cyclecross, long distances, 80 plus Km trips all the way to six-seven hours in a saddle. I have seen places and spots along my routes ;),
deep corners like long time abandoned sand and gravel pits, a lot of deep dark bushland, I was going there for long range shooting for some time. Btw, two gunclubs about 10-15 minutes from my house and my archery range in a 80 plus acres deep forest surrounded with even bigger forests...


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:18 pm 
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Lots of 'stuff' can be done with/to an Air Force Talon or Condor.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:20 pm 
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Amazon reviews started getting :butthead:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:01 pm 
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Don't always believe amazon reviews. Ive seen people give things bad reviews, when it has nothing wrong with it. There are guys in the states having troubles with parts support for Krals.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:40 pm 
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Oh no, I am a heavy Amazon user, a well spent money for Amazon Prime account for me, I haven't been in any shopping mall for years.
But once I started asking for some specialty products (that I would be spending enormous amount of time driving around what stores may or may not have on shelves) noticing a pattern of pure descriptions similar to aliexpress (I am pretty active there as well whenever I have time to wait). Here the reviews getting messed up (less common things like a "sunshade cover for a 67 mm OD camera lens" or "bike handlebar mount cellphone holder", padded biking shorts", "duct booster fan", "small animal trap", ect)...
The bottom line is, what more specific product it is, becoming harder to make purchasing decisions based on online pictures only.
Now again I cannot recall reading reviews about Kral at least from two to four people here @ CAF.
Makes sense? if I am a bit reserved cashing out a decent pile of cash for an airgun + pump + bits and pieces and at the end to say woow :D or woow :shock: and at the end of third day if I decide just not liking it I cannot sell if for half? (I have two replicas' in classified, basically new and nobody bothered to send me even some s***y offer)


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