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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:07 am 
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Just wondering the difference between the guns. Would the new synthetic versions fit the wood stocks and vice versa? And also wondering if the 397 could be converted easily to 392, and if the reverse is true. Any difference in the power plants, or bolts?

Kind of partial to the wood stocked .22 version, but it seems to be discontinued, along with the wood stocked .177, both replaced by the synthetic stocked versions. If I buy a new synthetic, does anyone make wood for these? If I can lay hands on a .177 can I convert it to .22 later? All advice is welcome.

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You couldn't easily swap the barrels on these models because they're soldered in place, from the breech to the muzzle. Older models (pre-90's I think) have a soldered-in valve, the valve body is soldered into the tube and you must get the seals and other parts out with a special tool, usualy sold with the seal kit. On newer models, the valve is a cartridge type, like the one found in 13xx pistols for example, and can be more easily serviced.

I don't know if the action from a synthetic-stocked one would fit an older wood stock, I can only hope so. If that was me, I'd look for a used one in wood. Maybe also you could find wood furniture on ebay. There are custom wood stock makers, but that can be an expensive way to go. Good luck!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:34 pm 
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airmec wrote:
You couldn't easily swap the barrels on these models because they're soldered in place, from the breech to the muzzle. Older models (pre-90's I think) have a soldered-in valve, the valve body is soldered into the tube and you must get the seals and other parts out with a special tool, usualy sold with the seal kit. On newer models, the valve is a cartridge type, like the one found in 13xx pistols for example, and can be more easily serviced.

I don't know if the action from a synthetic-stocked one would fit an older wood stock, I can only hope so. If that was me, I'd look for a used one in wood. Maybe also you could find wood furniture on ebay. There are custom wood stock makers, but that can be an expensive way to go. Good luck!


See used come up for sale very often?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:15 am 
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Tactical Lever wrote:
airmec wrote:
You couldn't easily swap the barrels on these models because they're soldered in place, from the breech to the muzzle. Older models (pre-90's I think) have a soldered-in valve, the valve body is soldered into the tube and you must get the seals and other parts out with a special tool, usualy sold with the seal kit. On newer models, the valve is a cartridge type, like the one found in 13xx pistols for example, and can be more easily serviced.

I don't know if the action from a synthetic-stocked one would fit an older wood stock, I can only hope so. If that was me, I'd look for a used one in wood. Maybe also you could find wood furniture on ebay. There are custom wood stock makers, but that can be an expensive way to go. Good luck!


See used come up for sale very often?


Very often, not. Here on the forum I mean, I can't speak for places like CGN or other sale sites, I don't use these resources. I guess you'll have to keep an eye wide open for an opportunity if you want to score one of these fine pumpers.

You may also want to look for a Benjamin 312 or 342 (.22 caliber), they're older models but very desirable too. Parts and seal kits are available for these models, they're made from wood and metal - brass barrel/tube, walnut stock, nothing synthetic except the seals. I'm currently rebuilding a 310, the BB version of the 312, I can tell I'm impressed by the quality, especially compared with the modern, ''not made in America'' airguns.

Other desirable popular pumpers you may want to look for: Benjamin/Sheridan C9A (.20 calibre), Sheridan Blue/Silver Streak, Crosman 120 (in .22 only), Crosman 140/1400. I have a 120 and a 140 (detuned), these airguns are very well built and reliable, and in full-power trim they're 600+ fps shooters.

Edit: Just found this by coincidence :) : https://www.ebay.com/c/12021288945

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:07 pm 
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airmec wrote:
Tactical Lever wrote:
airmec wrote:
You couldn't easily swap the barrels on these models because they're soldered in place, from the breech to the muzzle. Older models (pre-90's I think) have a soldered-in valve, the valve body is soldered into the tube and you must get the seals and other parts out with a special tool, usualy sold with the seal kit. On newer models, the valve is a cartridge type, like the one found in 13xx pistols for example, and can be more easily serviced.

I don't know if the action from a synthetic-stocked one would fit an older wood stock, I can only hope so. If that was me, I'd look for a used one in wood. Maybe also you could find wood furniture on ebay. There are custom wood stock makers, but that can be an expensive way to go. Good luck!


See used come up for sale very often?


Very often, not. Here on the forum I mean, I can't speak for places like CGN or other sale sites, I don't use these resources. I guess you'll have to keep an eye wide open for an opportunity if you want to score one of these fine pumpers.

You may also want to look for a Benjamin 312 or 342 (.22 caliber), they're older models but very desirable too. Parts and seal kits are available for these models, they're made from wood and metal - brass barrel/tube, walnut stock, nothing synthetic except the seals. I'm currently rebuilding a 310, the BB version of the 312, I can tell I'm impressed by the quality, especially compared with the modern, ''not made in America'' airguns.

Other desirable popular pumpers you may want to look for: Benjamin/Sheridan C9A (.20 calibre), Sheridan Blue/Silver Streak, Crosman 120 (in .22 only), Crosman 140/1400. I have a 120 and a 140 (detuned), these airguns are very well built and reliable, and in full-power trim they're 600+ fps shooters.

Edit: Just found this by coincidence :) : https://www.ebay.com/c/12021288945


Thanks. Kind of kicking myself a bit for not getting one, and getting myself into trouble with the wife a few years ago.

Before that, I always wanted a Sharp Innova.

I have a few airguns, and it's not meant to replace any of them, but I always wanted a classic (or would be classic) moderately high power multi pump rifle.


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