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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:54 pm 
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Hi

I'm on a big private property.
Having lots of gopher problems.
I'd say they let me get about 75-100 yards before they spook.
What are some of the best air rifles - ideally lefty or switchable bc I shoot left.
What caliber should I use for humane kills at those distances?
And what are the best air-handguns for closer range (garden etc) that are
still accurate and punch enough to take gophers down?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:33 pm 
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What i use in AB. Is a PP700A W Folding stock[pistol sub 495] Pistol.Very accurate in 22cal.SS,Ultra shock pellets. If i was looking to upgrade it i would go with the PP750 25 cal,extending stock,magazine.Rifles, 22 CAL AA 510 Carbine.50-75 yd stuff Hades pellets.More umpf 25 cal dreamline,light tac with Hades .Reaches out quite well. All are quite,by friendly.Watch your Backstops..


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:41 pm 
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Nice to have a large property to shoot.
Personally I wouldn’t bother with hand guns not enough punch and accuracy.
As far as rifles with a Springer you probably have to shot sub 50yrds usually, I’m not sure
How well something in .25 would do.
So..... if budget is no problem I would look into pcp’s, anything .25.30.35, with a pcp you can reach out much further.

Or, if you’re around the Toronto area I’m sure some of us would love you give you a hand...lol.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:45 pm 
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On a budget, this gun in .25 would be hard to beat.

https://airgunarcheryfun.ca/artemis-m11 ... 5-caliber/

You can shoot high power out to the 100 yard mark and dial it way down to make it quieter and tamer for in the garden. The JSBs that Wes tested sure did shoot an impressive group at 100 yards. Heck, that is impressive at 50 yards.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:15 pm 
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Those M11 are nice.
If they were available in non-PAL I'd be all over one in .22.
But for gophers at 100 yd, .25 cal in full power would do the job nicely.
I'm alright, nobody worry 'bout me!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:42 pm 
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I'd be willing to spend between $500-1000.
And please include the brand and model bc I'm new to all of this : )
Thx


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:11 pm 
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I would say the Artemis M11 PCP in .22 or .25 would be the minimum. You will need an air source
and if using compressed air or nitrogen rental as I do, you will need a 4500spi carbon fiber high capacity tank
for filling the rifle as these have a fill of 3,600psi. If only filling to 3000psi, then the shot count will be lower
but will be easier to pump up with a manual pump - or a 3000psi scuba tank would do if filling at a scuba shop
or paint ball store.
Some guys get by with a manual pump, or a compressor for filling tanks or the gun itself.
The black tank in the picture is a 200 pound nitrogen bottle that I rent from Praxaire in town here. The silver bottle
is a 60 cu ft. scuba tank a friend gave me which got me started in PCP rifles. The cardboard box contains 2 4500 psi
carbon fiber bottles I bought from a fellow on his site. The gauges I bought from Joe Brancoto in the States.
Clicking on the page will make it enlarge and easier to see the 'stuff'.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:20 pm 
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HW 97 in .177 with field rat - 56 yards. This rifle, a 'springer' is good to about 60yards.
You could push it out further, but head and chest hits are necessary at these ranges
and are getting beyond the accuracy range of the rifle.
This rifle seemed to work well to this 56yard range.
A springer such as this would work exceptionally well in .177 or .22 for garden pests, of course
and it never runs out of air.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:30 pm 
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Mac wrote:
On a budget, this gun in .25 would be hard to beat.

https://airgunarcheryfun.ca/artemis-m11 ... 5-caliber/

You can shoot high power out to the 100 yard mark and dial it way down to make it quieter and tamer for in the garden. The JSBs that Wes tested sure did shoot an impressive group at 100 yards. Heck, that is impressive at 50 yards.
Good advise here, as usual.
You can get the Artemis M11 and a portable compressor within your $500-1000 budget.
https://airgunarcheryfun.ca/new-warrior-gen-ii-12v-110v-mini-compressor-310-bar-4500psi-fill/

You'll even have a little change leftover for some .25 cal ammo (Predator Polymags or Hades)
You'll want a Scope to reach out for the tunnel rats at 75-100yards so you don't spook them, but you're off to a good start with this package...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:13 pm 
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Dukemeister wrote:
Those M11 are nice.
If they were available in non-PAL I'd be all over one in .22.
But for gophers at 100 yd, .25 cal in full power would do the job nicely.
I'm alright, nobody worry 'bout me!


Amen! As soon as they reopen the courses and I can get a PAL the m11 is mine. Oh yes, it will be mine :P

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:47 pm 
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I'm finding the M11 on sale in a few places for 23-25% off.
https://airgunarcheryfun.ca/artemis-m11 ... 5-caliber/
Anyone know why that might be?
Are there any problems with it?
Are they coming out with a model to replace it?

Thanks


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:03 pm 
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At that range you would be best off with slugs, and then .22 would do. If your budget can handle it and AA S510 would be a good choice. JMO

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:57 pm 
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The M11 is more gun than the price suggests, for sure. The sale price is not because it's not any good. Canadashootingsupply.ca brought these in first and after that I got some as well. We had a lot of stock that weren't selling much, and then Canadashootingsupply.ca became the distributor for Kral and began bringing in big shipments from them and he was out of room, so Raman put the guns on sale to get them moving and I followed suit. Truth be told it wasn't until the price dropped that they began to sell well, so it was probably for the best, to give people a chance to find out themselves they were worth buying.
They are well worth the original price in my opinion, and a steal at the price they are at.
A Diana StormRider with regulator installed is more money than this powerhouse with regulator and large capacity of air adjustable power and good heavy barrel.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:08 am 
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microscope77 wrote:
I'm finding the M11 on sale in a few places for 23-25% off.
https://airgunarcheryfun.ca/artemis-m11 ... 5-caliber/
Anyone know why that might be?
Are there any problems with it?
Are they coming out with a model to replace it?

Thanks
I bought mine there for full retail when they first became available.
I wouldn't sell it at that price second hand.
Get it; and shoot it like you stole it..!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:21 am 
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Not very many airguns would be good for Gophers IMHO. Need enough power to make them summersault in the field so they don't make it back down the hole. What's the sence if you can't go look and see if/where you hit them? You should likely rethink the Gophers as I am sure you don't want to just wound them. CHEERS!


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