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YepYep
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RPAL renewed

#1 Post by YepYep »

Well... Received a letter from RCMP and my new (the 2nd edition) PAL plastic card is inside.

The processing speed for my new card is really surprised me and I didn't expect I can receive my new cad in just a month.

A month ago, Feb.20, I submitted the online application with the new photo which was my selfie without a smiling face... As my old card will be expired in July, I was actaully expecting I receive my new card in maybe May or June, and maybe I need to call them or at least check the progress in June something... Then, I received my new card in the afternoon.... :D :D
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Re: RPAL renewed

#2 Post by Dukemeister »

Congrats! Now you can buy some more... :drinkers:

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#3 Post by Daryl »

Good stuff.
Must be a standard R-P.A.L. No 12/6 handguns. Those do take longer.
Am wondering, do you have to "prove" range membership? For some
odd reason, I have to send a photograph of my range membership.
I've been a member of PG Gun club since 1979, am past president &
for most of those in between being Pres. and Past Pres, I've been a
director of the club - yet every year I have to send a photo-copy of
my membership. Weird! Other guys in town here, don't have to do
this and they also own 12/6 handguns. I guess I must have really
ticked her off when I hung up (slammed it down) on here one time.
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#4 Post by averagejoe »

Daryl wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:50 pm Good stuff.
Must be a standard R-P.A.L. No 12/6 handguns. Those do take longer.
Am wondering, do you have to "prove" range membership? For some
odd reason, I have to send a photograph of my range membership.
I've been a member of PG Gun club since 1979, am past president &
for most of those in between being Pres. and Past Pres, I've been a
director of the club - yet every year I have to send a photo-copy of
my membership. Weird! Other guys in town here, don't have to do
this and they also own 12/6 handguns. I guess I must have really
ticked her off when I hung up (slammed it down) on here one time.
That is how they try to sneakily deny and delay things for people. It is not a legal requirement, and last I heard it was not even on the list of things you are required to include on the paperwork. But they will hold up applications/renewals without letting you know until you send in the range membership. Lots of stories of people saying "I sent it in 6+ months ago and nothing has happened" and after being told to call in "They are waiting on my to send in my range membership, but nobody told me" :evil:
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Is there a maintained list of restricted that can still be imported?
I have some airguns.
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#6 Post by YepYep »

Daryl wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:50 pm Good stuff.
Must be a standard R-P.A.L. No 12/6 handguns. Those do take longer.
Am wondering, do you have to "prove" range membership? For some
odd reason, I have to send a photograph of my range membership.
I've been a member of PG Gun club since 1979, am past president &
for most of those in between being Pres. and Past Pres, I've been a
director of the club - yet every year I have to send a photo-copy of
my membership. Weird! Other guys in town here, don't have to do
this and they also own 12/6 handguns. I guess I must have really
ticked her off when I hung up (slammed it down) on here one time.
Nope.... The only thing I did was a new selfie photo... I think maybe the record under my name just too clean because eveything was banned before I do my first purschase for a restrict firearm.... :( :( :( So, not only the 12/6 handguns, I don't even have a 22lr like Ruger Mark-IV...

But your input make me wondering if I do have registered one or more pistol, I might need to supply the prove of the range membership... and how about if I am not a member for any range?? Will they believe I just want to collect and won't shoot the pistols I owned??
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#7 Post by SHD »

YepYep wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 11:44 am Will they believe I just want to collect and won't shoot the pistols I owned??
You can apply for "collector status". It is a bunch of paperwork but went pretty smoothly for me back in the day. Years later I did join a range, but had no hassles in the interim. Not that you can buy (non-antique) pistols at all now, of course, but that may change again presently.


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averagejoe wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:32 am That is how they try to sneakily deny and delay things for people. It is not a legal requirement, and last I heard it was not even on the list of things you are required to include on the paperwork. But they will hold up applications/renewals without letting you know until you send in the range membership. Lots of stories of people saying "I sent it in 6+ months ago and nothing has happened" and after being told to call in "They are waiting on my to send in my range membership, but nobody told me" :evil:
3 renewals ago, (15yrs?) my renewal application was sent in on January 2nd. The expiry was to be 22May. Getting close, I checked online and had been sent to the Provincial CFO 3 months prior. On the 22nd May(or so) I called and the CFO
actually answered the phone. I thought a steno answering the phone, so I asked to speak to the CFO. I was told the CFO is too busy to talk on the phone, so I told her to tell the CFO to get off his butt and send me my 12/6PAL, then hung up.
A week later, I was told that I was probably speaking to the CFO a female so I phoned back and she answered the phone. I apologized for my behavior & asked about my P.A.L. She informed me "we have to send you a letter of intent". I asked what that was and she said "we have no record of you belonging to a gun club and want to know what you INTEND to do with these handguns". I told her I'd been a member of R&G clubs in BC since transferred to Smithers from basic training in 1972
and that I was a member of the PG R&G club since 1979, president and past president and current Director. I then asked if a photocopy of my membership card would help. She said yes and gave her e-mail account. I complied and exactly 1 month AFTER my PAL had expired, I received my renewal,- 6 1/2 months AFTER I had applied for it. I now send in a photo of my current membership with each renewal. They not only take 3 1/2 to 4 months to achieve. I still renew early Jan. as if the renewal is not in your hand, you cannot be in possession of any firearm outside your house until the renewal arrives.
I mentioned all of this to a friend, a local retired S/Sgt and he said: "Daryl, they have been instructed to hold up applications & put every impediment between people and their applications". I can only assume, some of them do not comply with that order, while some do. This Province now has an anti-gun person helping the CFO in her office and they are starting to order closure of gun clubs in B.C. that are not complying with HER interpretation of the range requirements. Quesnel is one such club.
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#9 Post by Normk »

Whether the apparent obstruction and over-complication of the approval and renewal process is intentional or not (I think it is), the natural tendency for bureaucrats and bureacracies is increased control, increased bureaucracy, increased arbitraty complication.

Regardless of the motivation, those who value freedom of choice need to push back, much sooner and more effectively.

In opposition to the "Squirrel!", knee-jerk reaction to anything American, it might be worthwhile to accept that some things about America, and some things that they do, may be useful for Canadians to consider?

As it is, any "Squirrel!", "American!" utterance seems to relegate too many to the lunatic fringe which allows destructive elements more options.
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