my new/old 1377 - velocity results!!

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killercrow
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my new/old 1377 - velocity results!!

#1 Post by killercrow »

hey guys, i got my crosman parts in the mil today, from k&s airguns. a while back i acquired an old model 1377 with a bad seal, so i didnt hesitate to buy a bunch of new parts :twisted: among those are a 24" 177 barrel, new valve and some other goodies. got her all put together, and seems to shoot good. i have a question though! my gun will dump 24 pumps with no modifications... is that normal? 10 pumps is death slow... so confused... :lol:
i dont have access to a cam right now, or id post some pics... maybe tomorrow.
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#2 Post by Dustman »

It could be slower to the longer barrel having more resistance on the pellet, therefore you may need to pump it more.
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#3 Post by RM422 »

But the longer barrel is supposed to increase velocity. Atleast it did for my 1377. But I also did those 13xx valve mods. The longer barrel isn't going to make the valve hold more air.
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#4 Post by killercrow »

this i know, but it does hold 24 pumps... dont ask me why :? i did a bunch of testing and 24 is the max, any more and theres air left in the valve. oh, and i put in a brand new pump cup too. when you open the pump fully, should there be a space open in front of the cup?
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#5 Post by RM422 »

24 pumps eh. You must have one souped up valve lol. I just wonder how many pumps it would take with the mods? maybe 50? Yes there should be a space between the the pumpcup when you pull the pump out all the way.
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#6 Post by killercrow »

alrighty, i fixed the problem with the pump cup. im using a backpacker barrel clamp, so it was in the way of the pump handle. the gun still takes 24 pumps though... wierd :lol: oh well, im not complaining! the gun shoots real hard, not sure the speed, since my chrony doesnt like me today... :evil: but maybe tomorrow! heh, and i have a spare valve too, so i can mod the hell out of it! :twisted:
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#7 Post by RM422 »

My 1377c takes 30 pumps with the valve mods. And shoots even harder with the 1760 barrel I put on it. At 20 feet with 30 pumps it almost shot straight through a 2x4.
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#8 Post by killercrow »

sounds sweet man 8) i shot mine into a 1" piece of cedar fascia board, and it ALMOST punches through. cracks the back and thats about it. oh and thats was from about 2" away.
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#9 Post by RM422 »

I bet with a few more mods to your 1377 you could get it pulling numbers like mine. These pistols can get up to a real good velocity if you let them.
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#10 Post by killercrow »

yeah, ive heard a lot of good about the 1377. suits me fine! if i can modify something... im there man :lol: so what mods did you do? the works? or... im gonna go get started on my old valve... see what i can come up with.
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#11 Post by RM422 »

Well first I did the mod where you file down the teflon valve stem head. Then I put in a lighter valve spring. Next I filled in the bleed hole with epoxy and then put on the 1760 barrel. now all i'm waiting for is the metal 2200 piston.
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#12 Post by killercrow »

cool. you havent even messed wit the exhaust porting! did you cut threads off of the male side of the valve?
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#13 Post by RM422 »

Nope didn't even touch the exhaust port. No I did not cut the threads of the male inside. I will post a picture of my 1377 when it's all finished up. We can both compare them.
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#14 Post by RM422 »

I painted my pump black to match the rest of the gun. Because I also have the shoulder stock on it.
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#15 Post by killercrow »

yeah? i kinda like them wood grips... the pump handle thats on it now pinches me... lots of swearing involved :lol: i guess its too small. but ultimately, i need to build a stock or something... a pistol with a 24" barrel is just too much for me :lol:

i wonder how cedar would turn out? :idea: that would be easy to carve out!
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