My quiet gun is the FWB65. I say the HW45 is a bit less noisy than the HW40 and the FWB beats em both. The HW40 is a great gun but I never shot well with it offhand. I also had a chance to dryfire a Izzy and it wasn't loud at all. I have one coming so I'll be able to tell for sure when I get it At the local club, the guns' breeches have to be open before we go to post targets downrange. That means 1 dryfire for the FWB at the end of the shooting session every time I go there. The Izzy should do the trick overcoming that one
Kevin -
Ever hear about the Compasseco TFSS2? They make a Chinese equivalent at $295 that they claim is every bit as good as your German model - if not better...Anyone ever owned this model?