Finale match pellets

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bobv · #1 Post by **bobv** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:43 pm

Ordered some H&N finale match pellets from Paul Bawden
at www.centerthegroup.com he sells them. 3 tins ( 1500) for $24..sound like a good price ..right??? He also sells the Drulov DU-10 and the Daisy 853.
Just thought I'd pass on the info
Bob

airgunfun · #2 Post by **airgunfun** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:51 pm

That's USD$24.00....not that it's such a big deal anymore....

I get mine from Cibles in Gatineau, QC. Actually, Cibles is offering some heavy discounts on pellets thru eBay.

http://stores.ebay.ca/Olympic-Marksman- ... idZ2QQtZkm

#3 Post by **sniper** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:08 pm

don't they have in 5.5 (.22) ???

TCooper · #4 Post by **TCooper** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:10 pm

Illingworth Imports has the Finale Match for $9.50Cdn per tin. Cibles should be about the same.

http://www.canada-shops.com/Stores/siar ... 893.2.html

Todd

airgunfun · #5 Post by **airgunfun** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:12 pm

Final Match not available in .22. But there others in that caliber I'll shoot you over the H&N msrp pricelist from Cibles.

TCooper · #6 Post by **TCooper** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:16 pm

The H&N Match Kugeln is available in .22 caliber. I had some earlier in the year.
RWS has the .22 Meisterkugeln which is a decent WC pellet.

Todd

airgunfun · #7 Post by **airgunfun** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:25 pm

But not the final match.

Here's the website from H&N.

http://www.natermann.de/sport/uk/produkte/diabolo.html

airgunfun · #8 Post by **airgunfun** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:28 pm

The question I have about H&N is that they claim that the Final Match pellets are hand selected. With labour costs in Germany, I highly doubt this would happen....the pellets would cost a fortune!!! Besides that, isn't there laser equipment that would do a better job in quality control?

bobv · #9 Post by **bobv** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:14 am

Opps...didn't notice that the price was $24 "US"

will have to read more carefully next time ...My old age is acting up again

Bob

TCooper · #10 Post by **TCooper** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:13 pm

Hi airgunfun,

JSB states the following about their Match pellets: "We are the only company, where every single pellet is hand-sorted and individually checked."

The H&N Finale Match are: "Selected by hand"
The H&N Match Kugeln are: "Machine selected"

The RWS R-10 Match pellet is checked by: "Optoelectronic Scanning to inspect and measure each pellet"

As you said, I wonder how costs can be controlled if every pellet is picked up by a human hand and rolled around for inspection purposes. An employee likely wouldn't get through a sleeve of pellets in a shift! I would think the added cost, to cover wages, would be far more than the price dictates. The difference in price between the "hand sorted" pellets and a tin of unsorted pellets is really not much at all.
At D&L the RWS R-10 costs only $1.60 per tin more than the unsorted Meisterkugeln. The JSB Match are only $1.70 per tin more than the unsorted Shak.
At Illingworth Imports the H&N Finale Match are only $1.50 per tin more than the H&N Match. The JSB Match are only $1.70 more than the unsorted Shak.

Maybe the employees have a way to "hand sort" using an optical laser device. With "machine sorting" maybe the employee is not involved at all. This is obviously my guess.

Todd

airgunfun · #11 Post by **airgunfun** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:36 pm

Exactly....I've never seen a difference and never had a problem with either...take advantage of Cibles sale on H&N pellets.

Sniper, your e-mail isn't working!!! I tried to send your the price shhet to no avail.

These H&N pellets are an excellent value....they have a ribbed skirt though...but for CAD$4.61 for a tin of 500....hard to beat.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 7200967083

I wonder if Cibles would be interested in a group buy for members of the Canadian Airgun Forum?

#12 Post by **webstien** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:50 pm

airgunfun wrote: I wonder if Cibles would be interested in a group buy for members of the Canadian Airgun Forum?

That would be nice if you could arrange that... noticed that shipping is $7.50 USD on the pellets, good deal if you buy a sleeve.

On a related note:

It would be nice if canadian dealers had specials for airgun enthusiasts once in a while too. Give a little bit back to the community... ill see if I can get something going for the forum....

Something like the "whole lotta lead" deals in the USA like 3 get 1 free... etc.

Ya hear me D&L? Targetshooting.ca?

TCooper · #13 Post by **TCooper** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:57 pm

Hi airgunfun,

How about posting the Cible's pellet prices here so everyone can see them? That would be much appreciated. I had an old list from Cibles but I can't seem to find it now.

According to the ebay posting, the sale on the H&N Match Kugeln is only for 7 tins of pellets.

Thanks,
Todd

airgunfun · #14 Post by **airgunfun** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:09 pm

A number of his pellet listings expired today. I e-mailed Jocelyn to see if we can work out a deal/group buy/discount or something like that for forum members.

It's an .xls file, I'll e-mail it to you.

ETA · #15 Post by **ETA** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:22 pm

airgunfun wrote:Exactly....I've never seen a difference and never had a problem with either...take advantage of Cibles sale on H&N pellets.

Sniper, your e-mail isn't working!!! I tried to send your the price shhet to no avail.

These H&N pellets are an excellent value....they have a ribbed skirt though...but for CAD$4.61 for a tin of 500....hard to beat.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 7200967083

I wonder if Cibles would be interested in a group buy for members of the Canadian Airgun Forum?

I bought H&Ns from Cibles' ebay store. Excellent deal and service. Excellent pellets. Still I prefer the JSB SCHaKs for its larger size and tighter fit in magazines and barrels.
Sorted or unsorted is really not an issue, unless you are shooting a competition.

Quality of these two brands of pellets are so good that you will be hard press to notice any difference. I guess it is not hard to hand sort them, it is easy to see a bad one out of all those perfect ones.

You'll get bad ones from rough handing of the tins even if they are sorted.