Crosman 1077 vs. Crossman Backpacker?

[sniper]

do you have the 2260 in canada??

We had it along time ago from what I heard but dealer discontinued carrying them because too many defect on bend barrels. Perhaps they have improved now but we can always convert a 2240 to 2250 with 24" barrel.

[Parker_101_]

The 1077 was fun to use but low power.
The 2289 with ten pump i get 450 fps with .22 Copperhead Pellets.
Both are accurate at 33' with a scope.

I agree ...the 1077 is a little low on power....I cronied the one I had and was getting 370's......the backpacker is in the 430's with 10 pumps using 14.3g pellets.....I'm waiting on the 2240sbpk from crosman....should be here any day now...... this is the before shot......



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[gamerule9]

i believe the one i am looking at is .177 but not sure does airsource work better than C02 or are they the same thing

[sniper]

i believe the one i am looking at is .177 but not sure does airsource work better than C02 or are they the same thing

That's the advantage of air pneumatic than CO2 outdoor in the cold,
pressured air would not get effected by cold temperature as much as CO2.
The CO2 would drop in pressure as the temperature drop.

The 1077 only comes in .177 cal., little work on modding the valve and port
you can up the power quite a bit.

[sniper]

Are you talking about this airsource ???




That is CO2 in 88 gram size of bottle.

[ABshooter]

Well, I don't even know what the 1077 is (pics please), but I have a like 15 year old 1389 backpacker, and that thing is pretty accurate with a crosman 4x15 and copperhead wadcutter at like 50 feet, killed a few sparrows with that thing (damn I wish there was more to shoot around here).

[canshooter]

I have a Weihrauch hw97k, a Weihrauch hw30s, a Daisy avanti 853, a crossman 1377, and a backpacker 2289g. Hmmm, which gun gets used probably 5 times as much as any other...you guessed it the 2289. Its easily modified to increase power and accuracy, there is tons of good info on how to mod the gun on the web, and even as it was when I got it it was preety good fun. The way mine is now I can hit a target the size of a sparrows head at 60yds, at least 70% of the time. At that distance it still hits with a very commanding power. If you are using a gun outdoors in this country, forget the winter because Co2 is about as powerful as a beanfart.

[airbuddy3]

I agree with Canshooter , I have a modded 2289 ..and the results are like night and day ..the steel breach and the scope bring out the latent potential accuracy in this gun ..and the power isn't bad either ..all in a 3 lbs package .Stock form its not worth the pellet its shooting ..compared to what it can become .

Frank

[papaburger]

I heard stock 1077s are not accurate. But there are accuracy mod to really improve 1077.

Sniper : do you have info on modding 1077 ? Thx in advance.

I don't like the heavy trigger pull in 1077. Perhaps there is a mod to made it single action rather double action.

Better yet , HPA mod for 1077.

[gamerule9]

yah i am talking about one lol. but i have read reviews anbd they say the backpacker is better

[Joben]

Well, I don't even know what the 1077 is (pics please), but I have a like 15 year old 1389 backpacker, and that thing is pretty accurate with a crosman 4x15 and copperhead wadcutter at like 50 feet, killed a few sparrows with that thing (damn I wish there was more to shoot around here).

1077 is a repeating co2 rifle of very tradional looks...looks a lot like a Ruger 10/22 rimfire in fact, which if the name is any indication is not a coincidence.

http://www.airgunexpress.com/Reman%20Ri ... 6-1077.htm

[sniper]

Sniper : do you have info on modding 1077 ? Thx in advance.

I don't like the heavy trigger pull in 1077. Perhaps there is a mod to made it single action rather double action.

Better yet , HPA mod for 1077.

I've done my 1077 quite along time ago, I had the instruction from ETA
but I couldn't find it yet. Basically to up the power, 1. replaced the valve
spring with a softer one and 2. drill out the port of the exhaust and that's it.
It was simply straight forward job but very tricky taking it apart. Since
some springs would jump out when the gun is opened.

[ETA]

I heard stock 1077s are not accurate. But there are accuracy mod to really improve 1077.

Sniper : do you have info on modding 1077 ? Thx in advance.

I don't like the heavy trigger pull in 1077. Perhaps there is a mod to made it single action rather double action.

Better yet , HPA mod for 1077.

Accuracy of the stock 1077 is not too bad. You can improve it a bit by touching up the crown and polishing the lead-in. The biggest improvement is to fix the barrel. The barrel is loose in the housing so one can remove jam pellets by sliding the plastic do-hicky and barrel forward. If you are like me and never need to release the barrel, a dab of silicone sealant on the outside of the barrel near the front and at the back should secure the barrel after re-assembly.

As Sniper mentioned, the Canadian 1077 can be given a health boost by changing the valve spring and drilling out the front of the valve a drill size bigger. Taking apart the valve is tricky. You still can drill out the front without taking apart of the valve and still get significant boost.

The only thing you can do is lighten up the trigger pull a bit by cutting a couple of coils of the trigger spring and lubing the plastic sliding surfaces with silicone grease or glide paste, the stuff that is use on plastic draw slides.

Do take care in disassembly of the 1077. There are lots of little parts and springs that pop out as Sniper said. Take lots of pics so it will go back in proper order. Good luck.

[airsmith282]

from what i have seen from some 1077 hackers lol is to cut off 1 or 2 coils from the hammer spring and drill out the nozzle hole on the exaust port to the indent line and you can get over 600 fps out of the thing,it seems even then americans get 1077 that only pull 350 to 430 average.. also as a note for the 1077 owners here that are not inoto modding much if you got a 1077 thats only doing 300 or so put in just a new hammer spring, i had a problem wiht mine sence new and finelly took it apart after it really got bad and put in a new hammer spring and it pulls in the 400's now,,also lube the parts in side helps alot....also sniper and eta
s ideas are also cool. on e guy had mentioned once to mod the spring in the mag this is one thing i think is a bad idea ,infact several people have mention alot of skipped shots and so on... i dont see thebarrel in mine as a problem i guess i gota good one because even the crown is great on it.i have only had a jam or 2 from not enough co2 left so keping the barrel free is a good idea i think so any how.. getting spareclips and an extra mag or 2 is a good idea as well the clips wear out fast if you shoot it alot,i got 18 clips in total and 2 extra mags i have not had to use the mags yet but iam waiting its only a matter of time..my next venture with mine is the walnut stock from crosman and then we do some stock mods on it, i already went from the junk truglow crappy front site to the all black one and my accuracy was improved 300% any how thats my extra ideas there...have a great day guy's

[gamerule9]

i have been reading reviews and they say pellets get jammed very often