Crossman Air valves (a few pics) for builders & interest

[scruffie]

The way I read it is that he does have a PAL.

[Krazy Mike]

If that guy's got any pals<---Joke I'd be amazed. Fact is he doesn't know ME. So don't imply crap to moi

[Lornce]

This is a great thread and I hope it will open the eyes of people who are ignorant of the actual law. Please read the firearm act posted here. There are a lot of mods many of us do that do not reclassify the original gun into full firearm or restricted firearm status. Trigger, stock etc. I have several air rifles over the 500 that where registered at purchase along with my other firarms.

Who's ignorance Yours I think Do Not imply things about me when you don't even know me, or understand what I was asking. You can go and play with your sub 500's if you want, but please don't make BS statements about me. Go get your PAL if you want one so bad. I was just going over these posts when I realized how insulting you were And mainly in the post before this one...

Krazy Mikey...

Firstly I apologize to you if my comments where taken as a personal slight. I was very surprised that my post was taken as a personal insult or attack. In fact my comments where made as a generality and not directed at one particular member. I do not know you. I have no Idea what air guns or firearms you possess or modifications, you do. Neither do I care. We all have our own areas of air gunning and firearms that we enjoy and I would not think of slighting anyone’s hobby.

The ignorance I referred to in my post was not toward you, but toward many posts by members who do not know the law. And what in fact they my be leaving themselves open to. It would be great if we had a sticky to the Government site. And yes all my "firearms" are registered.

I find this discussion thread interesting as I run a firearms instruction course during the winter months with three people like myself who donate their time freely to keep the price of the course and testing low. Some of the sporting goods have started to charge hefty fees the same service.

We normally have a member of the police department in attendance on the last day of weekly sessions for a questions period. It has been interesting what they say about encounters with firearms or perceived firearms and airguns. They are unbending in regard to charges.

[Krazy Mike]

[Lornce]

Hi Lornce,
I guess I kinda over react some times. You see I've alway's lived in a small towne most of my 48 years, and there isn't that much crime like the way you were putting it. You see the Cops around here are pretty kool because it's all basically a farming communitie all around here. I've been shooting most of my life since I was around 8 or 9 years old. But the funny thing is I've always been interested in Airguns more than Firearms, and all of you guy's in here are talking about these Crosman #2240/50's and I've never owned one before or even have shot one. So I went out and bought one, and then ordered awhole pile of parts ie: S-Breech,SS Bolt,Barrels and I even made some custom Grips outta Red Oak and H-Maple, and Muzzle Brakes etc etc. This gets Xpensive holy. But I never even thought of what you guy's were talking about barrel length, and making a handgun thats over the limit, it did'nt even cross my mind.

So when you guy's started talking about it, it kinda pissed me off. The reason. theres a double standard in this customizing bizz and I did'nt understand what you guy's were even talking about. I got alittle upset as you can see. I did Not want to build something illegal I am pretty skilled when I build something, and I have all of the Eq. to do so. But I now do understand the rules of this customizing of the #2240 and I did not want to do something wrong. So I may have some spare parts left over from this little experience up 4sale and I will list them when I figure out exactly what I'm going to put together from this. I am sorry if my little customizing has caused any problems I just didn't quite understand

Krazy Mikey...

I grew up in small towns (Kelowna BC) then Worked in Toronto Seattle and New York. I have been work and living in Calgary for the last 15 years. Small towns are great. I love em. Reminds me of my childhood. In grade 9 we brought in our firearms for a show and tell. That was 1967. It was a different time. None of us at that time could conceive of pointing a gun at someone much less shooting another person. That happened in cowboy movies only. Our dad’s would have powdered our bottoms as gun handling was taught from a young age. I wish all schools had a mandatory gun-handling course. I firmly believe that the bulk of gun problems would not happen. Guns where tools like a screwdriver or wrench. But larger cities seem to breed ignorance and crime. Police seem to live in fear and over react to a lot of situations.

A big part of our social problem today is in fact people who know nothing about firearms. In this I include the police. Their training is incredible shallow when it comes to identifying firearms. Many of the better of our police forces have trained themselves. I find this on a regular basis with my students trying to register their firearms. I experienced it myself when in protest of the new firearms act when it was forced on us a few years ago I registered not only my rifles and pistols but also a Black and Decker staple than went to the media about it. I also believe you should know the law to protect yourself. If you have a questionable firearm keep it locked in a closed container in case the law ends up with access to your home.

I have no problem at all with someone who tunes. Are you getting 1,000 our of 2240? Tell me how you do it. Whether you register or not is your own business. I am a firm believer and vocal advocate of pushing for legal concealed carry permits for the average citizen. It has virtually eliminated crimes of rape, public robbery and house invasion in the states where it exists.

We all over react at times my friend, we’re human. I’m 56 years old and find that life is too short for fussing and fighting. We do after all love the same hobby.

No insult taken or given.

Your friend Lornce

[scruffie]

Exellent Post Lornce.

[Eric]

GROUP HUUUUUG

[Krazy Mike]

That's the best post I've read or seen in here also, thank you

Krazy Mikey... aka...Mike

[Krazy Mike]

[Lornce]

Hi Again,
Here's that Airgun I built here in this pic in this post, check it out if you want. But this was the 2240 I did build. But I have now taken it apart. I don't want to get into any problem with it being a pistol and possibly over the limit as I don't have a permit for a pistol like that, just for long guns. I do have friends that do though, and shoot at the Copshop Range. Post: http://www.airgunforum.ca/forum/viewtop ... highlight=


Krazy Mikey...

Nice looking gun. Good job.

[Krazy Mike]

Hi Lornce,
If I turned it into a rifle form would it be legal then with those Walnut Stock's that Crooked Barn has on there 2250 rifle version ? They want alot of money for it though, and I could get it shipped here, just the stock I mean. I would'nt need a handgun permit then would I ? When it was all together I had the Transfer Port modified so it wasn't over though, but still a concern to me... The Barrel was from a #2289g

Mike...

[Eric]

so long as the total is over 26 inches your good to go