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#31 Post by sniper »

Hi ETA,

Yes, Rona has Tru-Oil, I saw it tonight as I was looking for the Paint
stripper, the one that you post I saw that at AL Simmon gun shop,
are they different Tru-Oil as the one at Rona ???

What do you think the result from paint stripping ???
is it good enough or should it be completely clean off ???

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#32 Post by ETA »

sniper wrote:Hi ETA,

Yes, Rona has Tru-Oil, I saw it tonight as I was looking for the Paint
stripper, the one that you post I saw that at AL Simmon gun shop,
are they different Tru-Oil as the one at Rona ???

What do you think the result from paint stripping ???
is it good enough or should it be completely clean off ???

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Could it be Tung oil that you saw? They have those at RONA. The ones I tried took awhile to dry also. Danish oil is partly Tung oil.

Looks pretty good Sniper. 8) Does big pieces of finish just peels off like a piece of latex glove material? :lol: The factory sure puts the finish on thick. :roll: If you leave the stripper on too long it gets messier.

You can try to remove more of the stain by applying more stripper and using a coarse scrubbing pad and scrubbing it off. Those very coarse stainless steel or copper pot scrubber you buy at the supermarket works really well. :D
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#33 Post by bobv »

You should finish it , as mentioned, with more stripper and a scrubbing pad or steel wool , this will also smooth out the wood a lot. I also think you might have seen Tung Oil in Rona's . Usally you'll find Tru-Oil in gunshops , it's made for finishing rifle stocks
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#34 Post by sniper »

ETA wrote: Could it be Tung oil that you saw? They have those at RONA. The ones I tried took awhile to dry also. Danish oil is partly Tung oil.

Looks pretty good Sniper. 8) Does big pieces of finish just peels off like a piece of latex glove material? :lol: The factory sure puts the finish on thick. :roll: If you leave the stripper on too long it gets messier.

You can try to remove more of the stain by applying more stripper and using a coarse scrubbing pad and scrubbing it off. Those very coarse stainless steel or copper pot scrubber you buy at the supermarket works really well. :D
The one that I saw it says on the can "Tru-Oil" and they also have "Tung
oil", I was surprised actually to see the whole bottom shelve full of those
stuffs, every oil that you can imagine, since I haven't been to Rona for
long while.

Yes, you're right, if you catch it in time the big pieces just peels off like
latex glove material.
I have some of those scrubber, I'll try that, it sure beat the mess out of
sanding dust, I like that very much. THX.
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#35 Post by sniper »

bobv wrote:You should finish it , as mentioned, with more stripper and a scrubbing pad or steel wool , this will also smooth out the wood a lot. I also think you might have seen Tung Oil in Rona's . Usally you'll find Tru-Oil in gunshops , it's made for finishing rifle stocks
Yes, true, I saw Tru-Oil at AL's gunshop...... ok I'll go back to Rona and
pick up some of those Tru-Oil .... now the question is .... are these all
"Tru-Oil" products the same ??? because if I'm not mistaken the one at
Rona it says for furniture, I can't see what would be any different ....
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sniper wrote:
bobv wrote:You should finish it , as mentioned, with more stripper and a scrubbing pad or steel wool , this will also smooth out the wood a lot. I also think you might have seen Tung Oil in Rona's . Usally you'll find Tru-Oil in gunshops , it's made for finishing rifle stocks
Yes, true, I saw Tru-Oil at AL's gunshop...... ok I'll go back to Rona and
pick up some of those Tru-Oil .... now the question is .... are these all
"Tru-Oil" products the same ??? because if I'm not mistaken the one at
Rona it says for furniture, I can't see what would be any different ....
Don't see why not, Tru-Oil would be great for furniture. Definitely opens up a bigger market and sell a lot more. A tiny 3oz container will do quite a few stocks. :lol:
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#37 Post by sniper »

ETA wrote: Don't see why not, Tru-Oil would be great for furniture. Definitely opens up a bigger market and sell a lot more. A tiny 3oz container will do quite a few stocks. :lol:
Nop, sorry my bad, Rona doesn't have Tru-oil, it was Natur-Oil that I saw.
I picked up some more stain while I'm at it. Dark Walnut .....
They have Danish Oil, Lemon Oil, Tung Oil and about 5 other oils.
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#38 Post by Parker_101_ »

Question....will these oils apply well over stains or do they have there own colors?... :rolleyes:
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#39 Post by sniper »

Parker_101_ wrote:Question....will these oils apply well over stains or do they have there own colors?... :rolleyes:
Good question, the one that I use linseed oil is clear, Tung oil is clear and
so does Tru-oil but I did notice today that some the oil that came with
colour, one of them was the Danish oil.
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#40 Post by TCooper »

Most quality finishes are clear or amber in colour. The refinishing process involves: old finish removal, sanding, stain, and then finish. Some people will also use a filler but some stains will already have fillers in them. Many people will use the oil finish for a filler/sealer.

My preference is to stain as a separate step, before finishing. This allows grain patterns to show through the clear finish.

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#41 Post by ETA »

TCooper wrote:Most quality finishes are clear or amber in colour. The refinishing process involves: old finish removal, sanding, stain, and then finish. Some people will also use a filler but some stains will already have fillers in them. Many people will use the oil finish for a filler/sealer.

My preference is to stain as a separate step, before finishing. This allows grain patterns to show through the clear finish.

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Most oils are clear and can be tinted. Some can be brough tinted.
Tru-oil has a light brownish tint to it.
Like Todd said clear shows up the grain patterns better with stain.
Tinting the oil gives a more even color finish. Covers up some unevenness in the staining, if you didn't do a good job in the staining process. :oops:
Tinted oil also allows you some control on how dark the finish turns out after the staining. The more coats the darker.
The slight tinting in Tru-oil makes easier to get a good even looking finish. However, the tint dulls my colorfully RM laminate stock a bit. :(
I'll probably redo my laminate stock with Danish oil this summer.
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