SuperLube?
SuperLube?
Ive heard you can use this to grease your spring and piston to make it sound better, and get a little more Fps out of your gun, well where do i get this from?
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thudthumper
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i haven't heard of this yet, but greasing or oiling the hammer could logically cut down on drag. i don't think greasing the spring would do anything, but you might try lubing the hammer with a couple drops of very light oil. don't overdo it or it'll just clog everything up. also, i would be hesitant to use grease since most types would probably be too thick for this application. a light gun oil like hoppes 9 or ATF (automatic transmission fluid) would probably work well. also, stay away from wd-40. it just doesn't work for this kind of application in my experience. also, some oils can actually dissolve o-rings, so be wary of what you use. i know for a fact that ATF works great though. i've been using it on my paintball guns for years now.
as an afterthought, since you guys generally operate these things in colder temperatures than i'm used to, you might want to try a lubricant that isn't a liquid. namely, i'm talking about the spray that evaporates and leaves behind a fine teflon or graphite powder. i can't remember what some of them are called, but they are designed for cold temperatures because they don't freeze like a liquid would. as an added bonus, they don't run like oil either so it doesn't get all in the grip. the local hardware store should carry some. i think it's actually for lubing locks and such, but we often use these types of lubes in the south for winter hunting.
as an afterthought, since you guys generally operate these things in colder temperatures than i'm used to, you might want to try a lubricant that isn't a liquid. namely, i'm talking about the spray that evaporates and leaves behind a fine teflon or graphite powder. i can't remember what some of them are called, but they are designed for cold temperatures because they don't freeze like a liquid would. as an added bonus, they don't run like oil either so it doesn't get all in the grip. the local hardware store should carry some. i think it's actually for lubing locks and such, but we often use these types of lubes in the south for winter hunting.
not too bad for a 23 year old university student, eh?
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Any other experience with this? Need to lube a springer and it's one of many lubricants I already have. I need something quickly, like before the weekend, and haven't had luck finding anything good in moly locally yet, but still looking. I have lots of moly anti-sieze lubricants (a surprise to me, I don't remember buying them) but the annoying thing is they never say exactly what's in them or how much moly.
I know SuperLube is a good fairly high temp lube, I use it in rocket motors myself to prevent binding of metal parts when hot i.e. as an anti-sieze just like what the moly pastes are designed for. But since it's totally synthetic AFAIK I'm wondering if it's appropriate for a springer...I thought they had to "burn" a bit of petroleum product or something, admit I'm not real clear on that as I'm quite new to springers. Also it's a lot thinner than moly paste, more like a cream. I guess I'm looking for the technical reasons why SuperLube wouldn't be any good, not a reason like "nobody uses it", if you get my drift. Thanks.
Any other experience with this? Need to lube a springer and it's one of many lubricants I already have. I need something quickly, like before the weekend, and haven't had luck finding anything good in moly locally yet, but still looking. I have lots of moly anti-sieze lubricants (a surprise to me, I don't remember buying them) but the annoying thing is they never say exactly what's in them or how much moly.
I know SuperLube is a good fairly high temp lube, I use it in rocket motors myself to prevent binding of metal parts when hot i.e. as an anti-sieze just like what the moly pastes are designed for. But since it's totally synthetic AFAIK I'm wondering if it's appropriate for a springer...I thought they had to "burn" a bit of petroleum product or something, admit I'm not real clear on that as I'm quite new to springers. Also it's a lot thinner than moly paste, more like a cream. I guess I'm looking for the technical reasons why SuperLube wouldn't be any good, not a reason like "nobody uses it", if you get my drift. Thanks.
Does it last? I did read somewhere that it does combust in magnum springers, but so does every lubricant to some extent. I have non-PAL guns. I guess it won't hurt to try it. I'm unsure how the moly lubes I do have might affect seals. I know SuperLube grease is perfectly safe on them. I know many people use SL in CO2 and PCP guns, but putting it on springers isn't mentioned much. I would go with the "standard" lubes if I could get some in the next few days. I also don't need much at all, so don't want to buy a 10-lifetime supply if I don't have to, which is what the place that did have suitable stuff wanted to sell me. You'd think you could get sample packages or something...
The only reason I'm being so lame about just trying it and then reporting on it is because I've never taken a springer apart enough to replace/lube the spring and I don't think it'll be that easy (for me)...I'm a bit nervous about getting the spring out. I may be totally wrong, I'm just wary of mechanical stuff as electronics is more my thing, but must say I've had no probs with the simple guns I've taken apart so far so getting a bit more confident. Whatever I lube with, I can clean it out if it's no good, so no harm done as long as it's known to not damage seals.
I have SuperLube in both the spray and grease...it's the grease I was going to put in the gun. The spray is good for bicycle chains etc. because it dries and doesn't attract crap like some other lubricants, though the messier lubricants can do a better job sometimes.
I have SuperLube in both the spray and grease...it's the grease I was going to put in the gun. The spray is good for bicycle chains etc. because it dries and doesn't attract crap like some other lubricants, though the messier lubricants can do a better job sometimes.
I did a search on superlube and RM422 has been recommending it since last year. He hasn't blown himself up yet. 
In other words. You've got it use it.
Hi cfraser,
Like you said, as long as the grease doesn't harm the synthetic seals the lube should work. The most important thing to remember is that a little goes a long way, a smear on the guide, a lite coat on the OD of the mainspring, spring ends, and also a lite coat on the bearing surfaces of the piston, cocking slots and cocking shoe. If you use the "little goes a long way" rule, the lube likely won't migrate or spatter and make a mess and get in front of the piston seal and cause dieseling. Springers are generally really simple mechanisms, I love them and the way they work. Good luck,
Mulby
Like you said, as long as the grease doesn't harm the synthetic seals the lube should work. The most important thing to remember is that a little goes a long way, a smear on the guide, a lite coat on the OD of the mainspring, spring ends, and also a lite coat on the bearing surfaces of the piston, cocking slots and cocking shoe. If you use the "little goes a long way" rule, the lube likely won't migrate or spatter and make a mess and get in front of the piston seal and cause dieseling. Springers are generally really simple mechanisms, I love them and the way they work. Good luck,
Mulby
Superlube is not as thick and sticky as moly lube so it can be applied a little heavier. It is very slippery grease so that aids in a bit of velocity increase and the good thing is it doesn't diesel! That stuff is so heat resistant you can hold a match up to it and nothing will happen.
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