More bad press!
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More bad press!
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Conten ... &t=TS_Home
I sent this response to the writer of the article:
The story here is that a theft took place, nothing more nothing less. This individual is certainly not an average example of a legitimate gun owner. I personally know many hundreds of responsible and registered gun owners and I have never heard of any that have had a gun stolen from them, and yet in this inventive fantasy you intimate that this type of theft is commonplace. The photo you place with this tale Indicates that the average gun owner is a fat slob with shirt bulging open.
Coming from Great Britain, I am used to a press that reports facts, and would not stoop to reporting biased untruthful conjecture. We have a government that has repeatedly proven itself untrustworthy, and in response to the recent rash of shootings in Toronto has not responded with any realistic attempt to apprehend the individuals who are perpetrating these crimes. Instead they have chosen the easy target of responsible registered firearms owners. Taking away legally registered guns will not stop crimes comitted with illegal guns.
As a theoretically responsible paper the star should be obliged to report facts. I know that magazine and newspaper writers must come up with a regular flow of articles to fill the pages. It is unfortunate that the star has chosen to align itself politically and does not present fact, or at best twist the facts to suit their politics. The sad fact is that many of your regular readers, brainwashed by reading your reportage are nodding their heads in ill-informed agreement with articles such as this, I can hear them shaking their heads as I write this.
Shame on you...oh and by the way you do not have my permission to reprint select portions of this email in an attempt to twist my meaning.
I sent this response to the writer of the article:
The story here is that a theft took place, nothing more nothing less. This individual is certainly not an average example of a legitimate gun owner. I personally know many hundreds of responsible and registered gun owners and I have never heard of any that have had a gun stolen from them, and yet in this inventive fantasy you intimate that this type of theft is commonplace. The photo you place with this tale Indicates that the average gun owner is a fat slob with shirt bulging open.
Coming from Great Britain, I am used to a press that reports facts, and would not stoop to reporting biased untruthful conjecture. We have a government that has repeatedly proven itself untrustworthy, and in response to the recent rash of shootings in Toronto has not responded with any realistic attempt to apprehend the individuals who are perpetrating these crimes. Instead they have chosen the easy target of responsible registered firearms owners. Taking away legally registered guns will not stop crimes comitted with illegal guns.
As a theoretically responsible paper the star should be obliged to report facts. I know that magazine and newspaper writers must come up with a regular flow of articles to fill the pages. It is unfortunate that the star has chosen to align itself politically and does not present fact, or at best twist the facts to suit their politics. The sad fact is that many of your regular readers, brainwashed by reading your reportage are nodding their heads in ill-informed agreement with articles such as this, I can hear them shaking their heads as I write this.
Shame on you...oh and by the way you do not have my permission to reprint select portions of this email in an attempt to twist my meaning.
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For several years I belonged to a handgun club that was affiliated with a local shooting range. In our small club we had a few police officers, correctional officers, businessmen, and labourers. Other handgun clubs, affiliated with the range, had some lawyers, doctors, and gov't employees as members. The shooting sports attract people from all walks of life. I don't think it's proper for a newspaper to attempt to paint us all with the same brush. That's like saying we have citizens who drive drunk and disobey the rules of the road so let's prohibit driving in Canada. Many citizens die in driving accidents so let's stop this from happening. Bring back the horses.
Todd
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Note : Most safes found in residences , and not a few businesses are T20 fire safes . These are not rated for attack resistance . That said , it's rare to see these violated sucessfully in residential breakins . A quick consultation with your local locksmith , and proper installation methods will make even a home safe hard to get into . Typically , safes are violated when they are simply carried off , or when left unlocked . Good electronic security also helps ( the phone line must be backed up ) , and protection must be adequate . The combination of the above will keep your guns out of the hands of any but the most prepared/determined thieves .
You spent a good buck on your guns so expect to spend a good buck protecting them . The attack on Mike Hargraves's safe could have been detected at an early stage by proper electronic security . Had this happened , the attackers would only have been able to stay on the prem. for minutes , as opposed to the two days they were able to spend .
Chris
You spent a good buck on your guns so expect to spend a good buck protecting them . The attack on Mike Hargraves's safe could have been detected at an early stage by proper electronic security . Had this happened , the attackers would only have been able to stay on the prem. for minutes , as opposed to the two days they were able to spend .
Chris
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The 3-D concepts to safe guarding your family, home or business Deter-Detect-Delay....and if those all fail.........the 4th D.......... d'gun...cdf wrote:Note : Most safes found in residences , and not a few businesses are T20 fire safes . These are not rated for attack resistance . That said , it's rare to see these violated sucessfully in residential breakins . A quick consultation with your local locksmith , and proper installation methods will make even a home safe hard to get into . Typically , safes are violated when they are simply carried off , or when left unlocked . Good electronic security also helps ( the phone line must be backed up ) , and protection must be adequate . The combination of the above will keep your guns out of the hands of any but the most prepared/determined thieves .
You spent a good buck on your guns so expect to spend a good buck protecting them . The attack on Mike Hargraves's safe could have been detected at an early stage by proper electronic security . Had this happened , the attackers would only have been able to stay on the prem. for minutes , as opposed to the two days they were able to spend .
Chris
Safe and attackers.
If I remember the newspsper story correctly the thieves spent 2 days using sledge hammers and blow torches to open what was desceibed as a
770kg safe, in an apartment.
2 days and the neighbours heard nothing?
Hargreaves is now wanted by police for unsafe storage of firearms.
Firearms stored in a 1700 pound safe.
What more could the guy possibly do besides adding an alarm system?
This has to be a mistake or the world's biggest joke?
It's a crazy world.
770kg safe, in an apartment.
2 days and the neighbours heard nothing?
Hargreaves is now wanted by police for unsafe storage of firearms.
Firearms stored in a 1700 pound safe.
What more could the guy possibly do besides adding an alarm system?
This has to be a mistake or the world's biggest joke?
It's a crazy world.
Ther is a bit of a witch hunt goin on . At the moment they want to demonize collectors . Mike had a firearms based bussiness permit , one of the terms of that permit was that there be a security system .
This is one of the few offences where the victim gets charged . I suspect that the reason for the warrant , is that the Crown knows full well that the case will never come to trial . This way they look like they are doing something , and get to chalk one up in the win collum . If the case ever hit court , I rather doubt he would be convicted .
Cjris
This is one of the few offences where the victim gets charged . I suspect that the reason for the warrant , is that the Crown knows full well that the case will never come to trial . This way they look like they are doing something , and get to chalk one up in the win collum . If the case ever hit court , I rather doubt he would be convicted .
Cjris