Anyone using Militec-1 Products?

[airgunfun]

I'm still using the 'oil' and 'grease' samples that I received from them last year. It's a great product, I will definately buy more when my samples run dry.

http://www.militec-1.com/

[airbuddy3]

I use Militec on leather seals , I mix it with molly and apply to triggers ..
I was most pleasantly surprised with its use on O ringsI used it on O rings to protect them dureing instalation ...I found that the rings swell slightly and seal better .

Frank

[Steeb]

Im still using my samples from last year too.
Used it on leather seal last week, and im gettin no smoking from it.
I mixed a bit of it up with some moly grease too for the qb78 bolt. Smoothed it out faster than astroglide thats for sure.

[CP99_kid]

11111

[hotsky]

I still have some left too, hardly even used the grease...but I use it on my 9mm most of the time

[sniper]

I got quite a bit left still, since I email them twice with a couple
different email addr. and different ship. addr. ..... it's great ....
I got some guys in U.K interested in it too.

[RossB]

I note from the Material Safety Data Sheet for Militec Grease that it is 20% Lithium Stearate.

[airgunfun]

Is that a good or bad thing?

[RossB]

I note from the replies to the query on the use of lithium grease that some of the members touting Militech are also disapproving of Lithium Grease.

[airgunfun]

I think that because lithium grease leaves an absolutely horrible mess in it's wake and often, it's too thick for effective use in airguns.

[RossB]

I've been using a mixture of lithium grease and moly paste thinned with a little Air Rifle Headquarters silicone oil as mainspring lube for more than 20 years with no gumming problems.
The guns I use it in are a late 1960s Gecado 27 (leather seal), 1972 built BSF S70 (leather seal), and a 1980 FWB 124D (synthetic factory original seal).
Most lithium greases are more than 50% petroleum oil which could eventually oxidize to leave a varnish like crud.
Maybe the silicone oil I added to thin my lube prevents this oxidation.
The Weihrauch factory lube is mixture of Shell FL2 (lithium) grease and Avia Metacron UV16 (silicone?) oil.
The 15% polybutylene content in Militech grease may provide similar antioxident properties.
Polybutylene is the main additive (20-40%) in some 50:1 two stroke engine oils.
If you check the MSDS sheet on your wife's mascarra, you will find that the base is probably polybutylene and stearates.

[airgunfun]

I avoid all of that.....it's way over my head...I just use Militech or buy lube from Maccari.

[RossB]

If members are not willing to do the homework on airgun lubricants,
perhaps they should practice restraint when commenting.
Member: STLE (Society of Tribologists and Lubrication Engineers), retired.

[airgunfun]

I'm sorry but is there a need to be snotty? We're all on the same team....please relax a little and have some fun.

[RossB]

I take umbrage at being called snotty.

All I did was note that airgunfun, airbuddy3, and sniper all opined that lithium grease was no go for airguns, but miilitech was great when both are lithium greases.

I did lubrication for a living for awhile

I am trying to educate not alienate.

BUT, I will take the high ground when I believe I am right based upon having the experience and done my homework - and only then.

For the past 18 years I have, as a hobby, serviced all of the airguns for the Shooter's Den in Sudbury as well as some airgun work for Big Dave Dees out of Toronto, and Ontario Arms in King City.

As far as I know, there are only two real airgun experts in Canada, Noel Sedman in Kitchener and Peter Kraus at North Sylva in Toronto.

For some (perhaps obvious?) reason, neither of them have any interest in participating in on- line airgun forums.