HW85 input

[Cadeau]

What are your reviews on this gun ? Would it do for a substitute for the Diana 350 magnum ? Does Weihrauch have an advantage over Diana ? In Beeman terms what would the Hw85 be the equivilent of ?

[airbuddy3]

Hi Cadeaux ,
In Beeman terms the HW85 is one of the R9 variants , and is an excellent AR in its own right . Light wieght 7.2 lbs , easy cocking
very accurate , easy handeling , Rekord trigger ...whats not to like..?
You really can't go wrong with AN R9 , but its not in the same power class as the 350 .In full power trim the R9 will do 12.5 -14 fpe depending on caliber and pellet , The 350 will do 23-24 fpe .
It all comes down to what you need it /want it for The HW 85/95/R9
will cover most of what can be expected from an AR and then some .
The 350 Is a fairly unique beast , and if you don't need the power , ( for long range pesting , or large raccoon sized pests ) then you will pay for the downside of the power without getting the benefit .
For example can you see yourself cocking a 48 lbs AR 100 times for plinking ? Or relearning how to shoot a springer for this one beast ?
or shattering the optics of a perfectly good scope?
In The end you have to be comfortable with your descision , both are excellent AR'S , but which is closer to your needs only you can descide.

Frank

[randyhub]

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[Cadeau]

thanks Airbuddy and Randy. I think you's know where I'm coming from .

[randyhub]

Oh yes you are going thru what I did before I decided on buying mine. It is not like buying a gun from CT, this is a big investment and a purchase that will be with you for a long time. Buy the best you can afford and remember the better the quality the happier you will be. I know there is only one gun that I have purchased that I have not modified or needed to modify and you know which one that is my Patriot.

Happy searching and good luck.

Randy

[edholton]

well the two guns you are looking at are two different animals you will get both sooner or later if you like them that much_lol.
it is like getting a 22 rimfire and a 30-06 rifle...both are good for 2 different things!

[randyhub]

I bought the Patriot to hunt with when I cannot use my .22 due to noise and range concerns, it is not a plinker I have my 2240 carbine for that. So just make you sure you buy what you really want, a magnun springer is not for everyone due to cost, weight, recoil, and cocking effort.

[CP99_kid]

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[Cadeau]

well the two guns you are looking at are two different animals you will get both sooner or later if you like them that much

You know something Ed ! Your probally right !

[edholton]

well i look at it this way...if your going to want both ,buy the most expensive one first..once you have that getting the other one is not so hard.
and it would depend on why you want they if for other reasons than just having them...get a 350 iin 22 cal and the 85 in 177 and your all set!
just my opinion though.
good luck!......cheers

[Mulby]

One thing that helped me choose between the 85 and 95 was that the 85 has the screw in style end plug while the 95 has the sleeve style end plug. I prefer the latter for easier disassembly/reassembly. Also the 85 is longer and heavier, actually the 95 standard is the same length as the 85K(carbine). These are only my reasons for chosing between the two variants, they are both awesome rifles.
The 350 is a great rifle aswell, but very different from the HW's. It's longer, heavier, more powerfull, and more money. If it were me making the decision I would pick the HW, but I already have a pair of Diana side lever rifles which are pleanty power for me. I'm sure you'll enjoy whichever rifle you pick. HTH,

Mulby

Edit:P.S. Forgot to mention that my HW95 Luxus in .22 makes 15.3fpe w/Exacts 5.52, that's after about 1000rds break in.

[TCooper]

Hi Mulby,

Are you sure the current HW85 has the threaded end plug and not the sleeve type plug? Did you look at them both at Illingworth Imports?

Thanks,
Todd

[Mulby]

Hi Todd,

Yes I looked at the 85 at Illingworth's, but it was some time ago. Maybe I was seeing old stock? The last time I looked at the 85 was just a breif look and having already handling the shorter 95 I just put the 85 back in the box and took the 95 home. Isn't the HW80 a screw in type end plug aswell? It seems to me that theres alot more spring preload on the screw type end plug rifles.

Mulby

[TCooper]

The HW80 has the screw-in type plug. I was under the impression that the current HW85 has the sleeve plug. The carbine HW85 is the same weight, length, and power as the HW95. The metal parts are quite possibly identical.

Todd

[IanC]

THis thread has had a lot of respondants and i can agree with everything stated. Good responses guys not a lot to add....I used to own an 85 and they are excelent rifles. HW are really beautiful and seperate from the dianas for sure... I owned a 34 before i got the HW. I sold it and when the 85 arrived in the mail i opened the box and just stared at it an smiled for the longest time before even picking it up. They are very well put toghether guns and in my eyes much nicer and of better craftsmenship than many others. Its just as simple design as other rifles but Weihrauch definatly understands beauty in simplicity. Kind of like a porsche
I dont own a high power springer now since i more or less shoot pistols only. If i were to buy another one it would be an HW.
Worth the money and more. Dianas are so plain and not much to look at.

Mind you both are great depending on what you want.
Good luck with your choice...you will be happy with both but satisfied with the weihrach.

IanC