adding 200+fps to any gun with no mods?

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razpizdiay · #1 Post by **razpizdiay** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:50 pm

hey guys,

i thought this was a myth, but now, i was looking through new articles and posts on some russian airgun websites, and here is what i read about.

putting a drop of diesel in the pellets skirt, makes a little explosion (diesel explodes when squished/under pressure - thats how diesel engines work) since the pressure from air is high enough. and that gives an extra boost, which adds alot of power to your gun. he said that this works even better if you enlarge the pellets skirt, so it doesnt move freely in a barrel.

anyone heard of this? i am definitely going to check this out, going to a gas station as soon as i get a chance too.

razpizdiay

#2 Post by **sniper** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:00 pm

The good ol' trick is still around .....
you can pick the RC airplane diesel fuel at the hobby shop and use q-tip, works great with the springer but don't use your good springer because it might damage the seal.

Equuleus · #3 Post by **Equuleus** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:43 pm

I'd consider trying it...with good eye protection on! Anyone know if this is a fairly safe thing to do with break-barrels?

razpizdiay · #4 Post by **razpizdiay** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:59 pm

i think that a co2 or a pumper would benefit more, as it uses more air (springers have hardly any air comping out of them compared to co2's or pumpers), thus it will have more compression.

i will get some diesel fuel from a hobby store tomorrow or so (thats a good idea, thanks sniper) or get some diesel from a gas station and try it with my backpacker (pumper), RM422 (springer), 2250 (co2)

Plink-Panther · #5 Post by **Plink-Panther** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:00 pm

Intriguing. Might get me 30 cents worth at a truck stop and tryit in my Marksman 2000 one day... Freaky thing to contemplate having a pellet go 420 fps out of my M2000!

ETA · #6 Post by **ETA** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:01 pm

Why mess around with diesel fuel?
Nothing beats the good old fashioned WD-40 tune to give your springers a couple hundred extra FPS.

A really good light show at night too.

Where is that Eddie's airgun site?

Just don't try it on any springer you want to keep.

Raymond · #7 Post by **Raymond** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:23 pm

Yes, it will boost the power, but it is also a dangerous practice.
If the airgun is not at its best, the gun may explode, and guess what? it is going to blast right into your eyes.

Time-Bandit · #8 Post by **Time-Bandit** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:40 pm

Not sure this is a good idea talking about things like that here, someone might try it and like Raymond said might get injured. Although from a scientific stand-point is very intriguing, but I for one would not try it out... Might also be illegal. Can anyone say firearm? With my 2240, I'd be shooting a firearm at over 500 fps, not only is it illegal, but dangerous.

#9 Post by **sniper** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:43 pm

It would work better with the springer because it needs heat.
alot of kids in Europe are doing this stuffs. apparently it started along time ago from U.K.

I would imagine it's dangerous just like the potato cannon ..... some kids up north still doing it. I heard some even use propane ... craaazy or what.......

mhborstad · #10 Post by **mhborstad** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:35 pm

Can you diesel a pneumatic or co2 gun? I wouldn't have thought so. it isn't the amount of air that is the limiting factor here, but the compression, and a springer reallly spikes the pressure when the piston bottoms out. Come to think of it, there is no way that a co2 will diesel, as there is no air to burn.

Seems like a bad idea to me. One of the _nice_ things about airguns is lack of explosions.

Matthias

I_HATE_PAL · #11 Post by **I_HATE_PAL** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:41 pm

This sounds pretty cool. Hopefully somebody will volunteer to give it a try, and let us know how it turned out, and if there was any damage done to the seal, etc.

TCooper · #12 Post by **TCooper** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:00 pm

I agree with Sniper. A springer produces heat and will diesel. I have lubed pellets in many CO2 and pneumatic airguns and have never had combustion. My .177 HW35 dieseled for 2 shots after a "lube tune". The first shot hit 1100fps but then the velocity settled down to 725fps after a few more shots.

Dieseling is hard on springs and can shorten their life. Seals will burn too. Airguns were not meant for continued dieseling and may not stand up. If you desire high velocity then buy a .17 HMR rimfire or better yet a .220 Swift

Todd

razpizdiay · #13 Post by **razpizdiay** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:01 pm

you guys really make me feel bad... i dont want to ruin my guns... i will probably use the stock barrels, not the 24" ones.

about it blowing up - it never will, i sure about that - airgun barrels (maybe not the thin ones from .177 pistols) are nice and thick, good enough to even handle a over proportioned muzzleloader load.

about WD40, what was it you meant? will it work just as well as diesel?

i can just imagine CT getting massive sales on the cheapest springers they have, just because people want a gun they dont care about for diesel testing... if that happens, i think i should get 5% of all the sale money, since i am the reason for people buying those guns...

so anyone up for dieseling their Weinrauch's? Condors? killer-b, how about your rapids? you know, all the cheap guns out there.
razpizdiay

killercrow · #14 Post by **killercrow** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:08 pm

im gonna give it a try

hey, i heard ether works too... but i'll try diesel for now... get back to ya'll in a bit.

killercrow · #15 Post by **killercrow** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:35 pm

well, i tried... but didnt notice a difference... but i wasnt using a chrony either... i guess i'll give it a try tomorrow when its light out.