Jacketed bullets in a .22 PCP?

[jezX]

all i realy can say is .if it fits and works ....it works . if a hammer is needed to get the slug into the barrel ,it's not a good idea . but if you have a good barrel that will accept the slug and gives a good fit then how much more damage will it do then 100 pellets going through .
what about guns that shoot these bullets regularly .most good .22s have 8 grove rifleing ,qb78 have 10 ? as far as i can tell the steel for good pellet gun barrels is as good as most .22 long rifles .
Voltar . should i shoot 200 through one of my barrels and see how many inches biger it gets? lol how many shots before the barrel is no longer useable

i will try a bunch of stuff to see what happens . also i'll take a bunch of measurements to see what a .22 long od land to land VS a crosman .22 . this will be fun . i have about 30 barrels that i can try .
i'm also in the process of testing the bolts for different valves to see if 2000 lbs will sheer the bolts of different sizes . since 3/4 od is 44% of a 1''s this should give 100 % truth to the valve blow situation.

[leadhead]

Starting to sound like mythbusters around here Can't wait to hear how it works out. Shootin a projectile that weighs twice as much as the pellet the gun was designed for would have to stress the gun a little, and the bullet would be going rather slow. Good luck with the experiment!

[killercrow]

a .22 rimfire barrel should measure .224 land to land. and yeah, youd think a high end pellet gun would use decent steel. now, say you stick one in a cheap crosman barrel, THAT i could see being destroyed. but if you spend over a grand on something, SHOULD it be so limited? id say not.

[jezX]

so here is some info . (measured smallest id)
crosman 160 .(the best barrel for pellets) it is close to .219'' it has vary small groves and lands
cr 2240 .this is not good rifling very slopy , .220'' also 2289 .(crapy)
hatsan m60 . .219''
all the other barrels i tried were 22long . these were all .216 to .218''. alot smaller . but the groove depth is huge (compared to the 2240.)
i think the crappy 2240 /2289 barrels will be a good bet . i do not have any .22 bullets left to try .i will have to do tests thursday . (sorry)
the 22lr's i tried are alot to big (to big ) and do require alot of force . once fited in they work . got 680f/s with 40 gr slug ,it went clean through the 2x4 that was supposed to stop it .this was fun .i will have to test more testing . i think i could get 800f/s easy . and the barrel i am using is .217 .

[Voltar1]

So men, where are the results of the jacketed bullet testers?
How about the rimfire bullet shooters? eh what happened? bullet stuck in your $1000 airgun? Inquiring minds want to know.

Walter....

[jezX]

did you not read the above . they do work . and yes they are tight . stuck ? no . went clean through a 2x4 .... sounds like working . lol i will do some more tests . i was quite happy with the out come . taking apart bullets isn't fun but i'll have to .
just to give you some good news voltar . they are very tight . and will take some pressure to get them in .

[killercrow]

I FREAKING KNEW IT!!!

cool man, glad to hear they DO work
whatchu shootin them outta?

[Voltar1]

You guys crack me up
Still waiting to hear the answer to the original question jacketed bullets in airguns........ testing that out yet?
Walter....

[jezX]

the bullet was a coated bullet . the coating may be .0001'' thick .not sure how thick the jacket would be . voltar ? if you have a bullet please messure it ,if you have a couple could you tell me the od on them . . i'm still working on shooting out of a 2289 barrel . it should work better . i need a slight mod to the gun to take the barrel .

[Voltar1]

Jes, right on about the coating that is very thin indeed. Only enough to adhere and give bore lubrication at rimfire velocitys. This coating does not make the bullet any harder unlike jacketeted bullets
Centerfire jacketed bullets are 0.224" exactly.
Walter....

[Wrong Way]

I've been shooting jacketed bullets from the .22 Ag for years! Of course, they are .17 Remington which I put in a sabot. The only question is : WHY?

You cannot achieve the velocities needed for expansion/fragmentation of a jacketed bullet with even the fastest airgun (unless your PCP shoots 45 grainers at 2600+ fps) so what's the point? Pretty expensive shooting if you ask me.

Ryan

[Voltar1]

I've been shooting jacketed bullets from the .22 Ag for years! Of course, they are .17 Remington which I put in a sabot. The only question is : WHY?

You cannot achieve the velocities needed for expansion/fragmentation of a jacketed bullet with even the fastest airgun (unless your PCP shoots 45 grainers at 2600+ fps) so what's the point? Pretty expensive shooting if you ask me.

Ryan

Ryan, I guess the only way for you to understand a discussion is to read all the posts from the original Question.
What you say here has nothing to do with the topic as sabots allow you to shoot anything that fits in that sleeve.
Read from the top and see if you still wonder 'why'
Walter...

[airgunfun]

Yawn...this discussion is getting tiresome... ZZZZZZZZZZZ

[Wrong Way]

Well Walter, FYI, I did read the post from the beginning.....and the question still stands. WHY? Just to see if it can? The question of whether a PCP will shoot a jacketed bullet is akin to asking if an automobile will run on jet fuel. It might, but whats the point in trying? or asking if loading 350 grains of BP in a muzzleloader would work. It might, but whats the point in trying?

Hope this clears the intent of my post up for ya. I wouldn't want you to think I was "stoopid".

[killercrow]

why??? armour piercing, man!!! yeah... barnes x solid copper you know... for them real tuff critters