Cooper-T versus Extra Magazines for the Drozd???

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Cooper-T versus Extra Magazines for the Drozd???

#1 Post by airgunfun »

Since there no extended mags available for the Drozd...does it make sense to go bulk? For same money, I can buy two extra mags.

What do you think?
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For sure, I use an Loadlocker from OPP and the flexible BB Marksman loader from Walmrt. Biggest thing here is the stock 12 g CO2 bulbs will freeze and are expensive. I used the Major Smackdown bulb eliminator $40.00 USD, heavy coiled remote $35.00 USD, 47CI HPA tank $25.00 used off Ebay, $6.00 for a used 20 oz CO2 tank. Mine also has a 1 piece 15" barrel and 1200 rpm of course. Using the Loadlocker and the Marksman fill tube makes 1 mag on bulkfill a joy. I fill my CO2 tank and HPA for 6 bucks!! Bulk pays for itself and provides consistant shooting.

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Re: Cooper-T versus Extra Magazines for the Drozd???

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airgunfun wrote:Since there no extended mags available for the Drozd...does it make sense to go bulk? For same money, I can buy two extra mags.

What do you think?
On hind sight, I would skip the bulk. Without an extended magazine it is pointless. Don't forget you are adding bulk and weighting down you Drozd. You get much faster loading and more shooting time with two more magazines. :lol: Darn, I would have 5 magazines. Now that would be way cooler and badass with 5 magazine sling across your shoulder. :D :D :D
The lack of a large magazine is another reason I skip puting in the full auto and 1200RPM circuit board. So you clean out a magazine in 1.5sec instead of 3sec. :? :? :?
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#5 Post by randyhub »

Well I would disagree, I have a hip mounted holster for my bulk setup, the coiled remote has a slide valve with quick detactable conectors which does not impede the mobility of the Drozd. Biggest PRO is the ability to enjoy shooting the Drozd year round without the temperture sensitive CO2 propellant. Not to mention I use my bulk setup on different gas guns. For the price of 5 CO2 cartridges I can fill my 2 big tanks and shoot at least 2400 rounds, and don't forget the inconsistant velocties and declining performance inherit to using the 12g CO2 bulbs. But hey don't listen to just my opinion, best to read the Drozd board and see why me and other shooters who want the most out of this little beastie have converted to the cheaper more consistant world of using a bulk propellant. I did my research before committing like you are. Hell even the new Crosman Nightstalker engineers were forward thinking enough to see the benefits of more volume for a CO2 propellant.

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#6 Post by MC 84 »

i toatally agree, bulk all the way!! i too have a drozd running on HPA and its great. when i was using 12 gram co2s they would freeze up all the time and provide very inconsistant velocitys. i actually cronoed my drozd with 12 grams and with hpa and got way more consistancy with hpa, i dont have the results anymore but i can do it again if you want
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No question about the savings with bulk. I have bulk too. But the joy only last as long as the BBs are in the magazine. :roll:
As for consistency, come on, this is a Drozd we are talking about. As Airgunfun discovered, it is not a target gun for sure.
If you have 3 magazines, you have 90 shots that can be switch out in less than 2 seconds. Even with a Load Locker, It will be tough for one to reloads the magazine in 10 seconds out in the field.
As for freezing up, you have 3 magazines and 3 Powerlets. Once one is done, the others are warm and waiting in less than 2 seconds. The Powerlets have a chance to warm-up in between magazines.

I know there are lots of folks that are obsessed with the Drozd and can spend a fortune modding the hell out of it. Hey, all the power to them. I too like the Drozd and like messing with it. I just see it for what it is. It is a fun airgun that is design to spray a truck load of BBs at a target with some degree of accuracy. :D :D :D
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#8 Post by randyhub »

Wait until winter then all the mags in the world will not come close to a remote HPA setup or a CO2 tank under a coat that won't freeze in weather below 12 degrees C. I do miss the convience of the stock version in some ways but I don't miss BB's rolling out of the barrel as my coiled remote with a built pressure gauge shows how much pressure is in the CO2 tank and that is great. The 15" barrel also helped with the accuracy for sure. I know it is easy to go crazy on spending, but my mods were done slowly over the winter months in place of buying beer and cigs, nice to have something left over to show for the money spent. The biggest advantage with bulk next to cost savings is the more constant velocity and the increased fun to be able to shoot a little further. So sorry to go on and on, but if you watch EBay over the winter months you will see that a bulk build is not that bad in cost, certainly less then a year's shooting with 12G bulbs. I do wish I had more mag capacity but at 1200 rpm with practice I still can squirt off 5 or 6 rounds in a nice group, as it is about discipline not dumping a mag. Found that spraying BB's gets kinda old fast, but with my 2.5 power scope or laser shooting cans at up to 20 meters is alot of fun especially at 1200 rpm when a 5 or 6 round burst all hit at the same time!!! Besides I can always switch back to single, 3, 6 round at 600 rpm at a flip of a switch, it's all about choice, flexibility, and most important THE WOW FACTOR.

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#9 Post by KILLER-B »

ETA wrote:I know there are lots of folks that are obsessed with the Drozd and can spend a fortune modding the hell out of it. Hey, all the power to them.
Some are so obsessed, they even make it their Avatar. :lol:

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#10 Post by Radical »

Keep in mind, the Drozd is a FA machine bbgun. Aside from a magazine that makes a complete arc to the barrel from the mag well or a drum, I dont know of many subguns that carry more than 30 rounds standard issue. And you are taught not to "dump" mags. Hence all issue M16's are only triburst. The Drozd has that selection to. In fact it has one more than the MP5 as it(the Drozd) is fashioned after a tactical weapon.

Screw 12gm bulbs. Useless. And magazines warming up by the time your get to the third or fourth back to the first-good luck it being warm enough(unless of course you hand them to the buddy you'd have to "tote" along with you to Bic lighter them to a decent pressure) been there done it all-Bulk power is a taste once savored never forgotten-theres no going back.
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