Stoeger XP-4 air pistol

[airmec]

Just caught that on YT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1w5XlzWeGI

Supposed to be available in Canada, around 100$, anybody heard of it?

[MyCrosman]

Just caught that on YT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1w5XlzWeGI

Supposed to be available in Canada, around 100$, anybody heard of it?

Shooters Choice (The Gun Room)in Waterloo.....http://www.thegunroom.ca/index.php?rout ... ct_id=4543

[airmec]

Oh yeah! Thanks for the link MyCrosman

[MyCrosman]

Nice looking gun and apparently well made but its no powerhouse.....not much faster than my Buckmark..

[Daryl]

Wonder if a guy could get it up to over 450fps, but of course, still stay under 500fps?

[lleader]

If you look closely you will see this is likely just a new 'shell' around a Beeman P17 (or P3).

Not that that's a bad thing - it looks great.

[Joolz]

Heh, that IS a P17.
Isn't this the exact same BS Beeman pulled with the Daisy 93 upon buying the company? Increasing the price by nearly 3x while adding a couple of minor cosmetic changes?

No thanks. At half the price I'll stick with the P17. The extra $50 saved is a reminder I'm not a sucker for marketing ploys.

Edit: above comment wasn't directed at you, airmec - just expressing my frustration at wicked marketing that is fuelled by corporate greed.

[ten-ring]

I have the HW40 so no need to get Beeman P17. I do like the style of the X4 but at a $100 price point it is most likely to be a P17 in disguise.

[airmec]

Heh, that IS a P17.
Isn't this the exact same BS Beeman pulled with the Daisy 93 upon buying the company? Increasing the price by nearly 3x while adding a couple of minor cosmetic changes?

No thanks. At half the price I'll stick with the P17. The extra $50 saved is a reminder I'm not a sucker for marketing ploys.

Edit: above comment wasn't directed at you, airmec - just expressing my frustration at wicked marketing that is fuelled by corporate greed.

No offence at all, Joolz . I don't make or sell them. And I agree on the ''wicked marketing that is fuelled by corporate greed'' . I must admit they're tempting, but maybe the P17 is a better value.

[ten-ring]

Just caught that on YT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1w5XlzWeGI

Supposed to be available in Canada, around 100$, anybody heard of it?

Shooters Choice (The Gun Room)in Waterloo.....http://www.thegunroom.ca/index.php?rout ... ct_id=4543

I sent an email inquiry early today asking if the XP-4 has the same internal composition as the P17 or the HW40.
I will post any reply but I doubt if they can or will answer this. As they seem to be the only dealer in Ontario and being primarily a powder burner source,this model may not be a big seller as is the case with the P17 from limited online dealers. I like the looks though.

[paddyfritz]

$100, I dont think so. No thanks.

[ten-ring]

I would not object to $100 if a dealer or Stoeger will verify that it is a new/better internal design or simply just a newer outer shell on a P17.
I have submitted an email to Stoeger Canada since no reply from the dealer. I asked for more data by October 20. I will advise the outcome.

I enjoy sourcing products that interest me. I would suggest that anyone curious about an airgun product ,for which they cannot find good info in order to move ahead with a purchase, should feel free to contact the manufacturer/ distributor directly for answers.
Some may not reply to a consumer query however.

[MyCrosman]

Well .....their has to be SOME kind of structural difference if the P 17 shoots 50 fps faster....SOMETHING is going on.....

[ten-ring]

I would not object to $100 if a dealer or Stoeger will verify that it is a new/better internal design or simply just a newer outer shell on a P17.
I have submitted an email to Stoeger Canada since no reply from the dealer. I asked for more data by October 20. I will advise the outcome.

I enjoy sourcing products that interest me. I would suggest that anyone curious about an airgun product ,for which they cannot find good info in order to move ahead with a purchase, should feel free to contact the manufacturer/ distributor directly for answers.
Some may not reply to a consumer query however.

Shooters choice replied Tuesday advising they sent my questions to Stoeger which have not replied to my queries. I am not surprised.
Manufacturers/wholesalers/ distributors/online dealers are not likely to give specific data on how or who makes their airguns.
I assume that the Stoeger execs probably decided to throw an air pistol into their line up and then had a facsimile of the P17 produced under their brand name with a nicer jacket ( in my opinion) on it.
If anyone discovers that this is truly a new improved clone of the HW40, I may be likely to shell out $100 or so.

[airmec]

I just ordered a P17, and will order an XP-4 next week. I'm just too curious about it . This way, I'll be able to compare them closely, and report back about the similarities/differences. There. I avowed it