What's a realistic max range for a .177 Diana 24 detuned?
- DanInVancouver
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What's a realistic max range for a .177 Diana 24 detuned?
Curious about how far one can keep a group within 1-inch for this rifle. My limited yardspace has me shooting 25m max.
Any suggestions as to what pellet type/grain to use if I can push out further?
Any suggestions as to what pellet type/grain to use if I can push out further?
Hi Dan, welcome to the forum.
I don't think Diana24 .177 is detuned.
25m = 82 feet, I think it's more than enough distance for that little gun, if you're shooting indoor and want more distance and straighter trajectory perhaps you can use something like RWS Hobby .177, 7gr. or try Beeman wadcutter RED .177, 7.4gr.
I don't think Diana24 .177 is detuned.
25m = 82 feet, I think it's more than enough distance for that little gun, if you're shooting indoor and want more distance and straighter trajectory perhaps you can use something like RWS Hobby .177, 7gr. or try Beeman wadcutter RED .177, 7.4gr.
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where to buy beeman wadcutter red
where in Canada can I buy beeman wadcutter red. Or perhaps even the point head blue. Canadian Tire have the gold hollow point.
I think beeman listed them under silver bear series.
I think beeman listed them under silver bear series.
Re: where to buy beeman wadcutter red
I think the Beeman RED is the same as H&N wadcutter, Todd would know this.papaburger wrote:where in Canada can I buy beeman wadcutter red. Or perhaps even the point head blue. Canadian Tire have the gold hollow point.
I think beeman listed them under silver bear series.
Some CT carry the RED but not all CT. I used to see them all three at BassPro but not anymore.
The H&N Finale Match "pistol" pellet is 7.6 to 7.7 grains. There are many other decent 7.7gr WC pellets such as RWS Meisterkugeln(blue tin), RWS R-10 lights, H&N Match Kugeln "pistol". The JSB Match "pistol" are 7.3 grains in weight.
Many, but not all, Beeman pellets are made by H&N. My web site has a partial conversion chart for many of Beeman's pellets.
http://my.tbaytel.net/~coopers@tbaytel. ... %20Pellet/
I'm not 100% sure of the coated Beeman pellets, sold in department stores. Maybe try some of the H&N, RWS, and JSB wadcutter pellets to see what shoots best.
Your .177 Diana 24 should have fine accuracy for plinking shots out to 30 or 40 yards. Your rifle should be able to stay at an inch out to 30 yards, with the preferred pellet (tested). My .177 HW30S spit 8.4gr JSB Exacts at 600fps and that rifle would group an inch at around 35 yards (5 shot groups). The 30 yard groups were well under 1".
http://my.tbaytel.net/~coopers@tbaytel.net/HW30SReview/
I would suggest trying a good domed pellet for long distance shooting (more aerodynamic). Many domed pellets shoot very accurately in field target competitions. Maybe try some JSB Exact(8.4gr), H&N Field & Target Trophy(8.6gr), and Crosman Premier Light(7.9gr).
HTH,
Todd
Many, but not all, Beeman pellets are made by H&N. My web site has a partial conversion chart for many of Beeman's pellets.
http://my.tbaytel.net/~coopers@tbaytel. ... %20Pellet/
I'm not 100% sure of the coated Beeman pellets, sold in department stores. Maybe try some of the H&N, RWS, and JSB wadcutter pellets to see what shoots best.
Your .177 Diana 24 should have fine accuracy for plinking shots out to 30 or 40 yards. Your rifle should be able to stay at an inch out to 30 yards, with the preferred pellet (tested). My .177 HW30S spit 8.4gr JSB Exacts at 600fps and that rifle would group an inch at around 35 yards (5 shot groups). The 30 yard groups were well under 1".
http://my.tbaytel.net/~coopers@tbaytel.net/HW30SReview/
I would suggest trying a good domed pellet for long distance shooting (more aerodynamic). Many domed pellets shoot very accurately in field target competitions. Maybe try some JSB Exact(8.4gr), H&N Field & Target Trophy(8.6gr), and Crosman Premier Light(7.9gr).
HTH,
Todd
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Re: where to buy beeman wadcutter red
They sell it here at Sirmail http://www.sirmailorder.ca/show_prod.ph ... f363176d22 . I've used those RED Beeman pellets before and they are pretty good. From what I remember Can. Tire discontinued and cleared out all the RED pellets in favor for the GOLD ones. I guess it's that "hollow point" look and persception they want to make people think that pellet is better but when the guns won't barely even make the pellet expand because they are all underpowered. If I remember correctly someone once told me that HP ammo expands best at minimum at 600 FPS and the faster the shot the better the expansion.sniper wrote:I think the Beeman RED is the same as H&N wadcutter, Todd would know this.papaburger wrote:where in Canada can I buy beeman wadcutter red. Or perhaps even the point head blue. Canadian Tire have the gold hollow point.
I think beeman listed them under silver bear series.
Some CT carry the RED but not all CT. I used to see them all three at BassPro but not anymore.
Tho I've gotten about 3-5% deformation (very /VERY/ minor expanding) in my guns before.
Those RED pellets are fun and very clear on the fingers.
Zero_Enigma
- DanInVancouver
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Thanks all for your thoughts. Placed an order from D&L..
for a tin of the following pellets to try out:
JSB Diablo Exact 8.5gr
JSB Match Diablo fur Luftgewehr 8gr
JSB S100 Match Pellet 8.26gr
Beeman (FTS) 8.8gr
What I have or have tried are:
RWS R10 8.2gr, Superpoint 8.2gr, Meisterkugeln 7.7gr, and Hobby.
Beeman Laser 6.5gr [rifle hated that on] beserk grouping at even 10m
Many thanks all, great forum here.
JSB Diablo Exact 8.5gr
JSB Match Diablo fur Luftgewehr 8gr
JSB S100 Match Pellet 8.26gr
Beeman (FTS) 8.8gr
What I have or have tried are:
RWS R10 8.2gr, Superpoint 8.2gr, Meisterkugeln 7.7gr, and Hobby.
Beeman Laser 6.5gr [rifle hated that on] beserk grouping at even 10m
Many thanks all, great forum here.
Hi Dan,
The "Beeman FTS" are made by H&N (Field&Target Trophy). You can get the H&N Field &Target Trophy in Canada from Illingworth Imports or Cibles.
Illingworth will make you a mixed sleeve of pellets if you ask. Maybe try a mix of some H&N FTT, H&N Hollowpoint, JSB Exact, JSB Match light, JSB Match heavy.
HTH,
Todd
The "Beeman FTS" are made by H&N (Field&Target Trophy). You can get the H&N Field &Target Trophy in Canada from Illingworth Imports or Cibles.
Illingworth will make you a mixed sleeve of pellets if you ask. Maybe try a mix of some H&N FTT, H&N Hollowpoint, JSB Exact, JSB Match light, JSB Match heavy.
HTH,
Todd
Don't forget to try the JSB Schak's, Illingworth's has them in 4.50mm and 4.49mm. They are about 8grs, wad cutter style, and most of my low-medium power rifles and pistol are very accurate with them. They are the main pellet I use in my CZ630 and Diana P5Mag.
But in my .177 Diana 24, the best over all pellets seems to be the Exacts 4.51 or 4.52. Enjoy that Diana,
Mulby
But in my .177 Diana 24, the best over all pellets seems to be the Exacts 4.51 or 4.52. Enjoy that Diana,
Mulby